Making Change with your Money

Abundance Comes in Many Forms: an interview with Heather Sloan

Episode Summary

A conversation with Heather Sloan, a public health nurse. She completed her Spiritual Director training in order to be a listening companion, helping others discern the right next step along their path.

Episode Notes

Heather Sloan's life encompasses many roles, including mother, friend, teacher, public health nurse, and Spiritual Director. She finds great joy in accompanying others in the discernment processes of their lives as they pay attention and respond to desire and grace.

Heather shares how she grew up with a profound faith that she inherited from her mother, who demonstrated through her actions and words a deep trust that there will always be enough, that they will always be provided for.  She was raised in Lake Tahoe, California, surrounded by abundant natural beauty.

She was interested in traveling and so pursued International Studies. Soon after graduating from college, she and her then husband became Peace Corps volunteers stationed in Africa, though the original intention  had been to work in Latin America. This assignment taught her that she was resilient, that she could go anywhere and learn and adapt.

“From my faith perspective there is an abundance in this world, and to lean into that and everything that's out there is already available to me." Heather Sloan

Key takeaways:

- Abundance comes in many forms, not all of which are monetary. Heather noted that she grew up in an area that had enormous outdoor beauty, a place that offered, in her words, an extravagance of miracles and beauty.

- Learn to trust. Heather describes a faith-based trust in her own strengths, in her resilience, her ability to be anywhere and do anything. She specifically described her intention to spend time in Latin America teaching English, where she was comfortable with the culture and the language, and instead being stationed with the Peace Corps in Africa and appreciating her own ability to adapt.

- Often, the path we take to become who we were meant to be is meandering. Heather described choosing to pursue a nursing degree not because it was her passion, but because there were study materials in the lending library in Africa, the PeaceCorps offered a scholarship, and it seemed like a vehicle to doing more international work. Her path to becoming a spiritual director is similarly meandering.

About the guest:

Heather Sloan was raised in Lake Tahoe where the beauty of the landscape played a shaping role in her faith development. She’s held many roles, including mother, wife, friend, teacher, public health nurse, and Spiritual Director.  She’s navigated through the significant life-altering event of divorce.  She finds great joy in accompanying others in the discernment processes of their lives as they pay attention and respond to desire and grace. Her educational background includes a BA in International Studies from Westmont College, a BS in Nursing from The Johns Hopkins School of Nursing and completing the Academy of Spiritual Formation and the School of Spiritual Direction programs offered through Soul Formation based in Portland, OR.

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Episode Transcription

From my faith perspective, there is an abundance in this world, and to lean into that and everything that is out there already available to me.

Welcome to Making Change With Your Money, a podcast that highlights the stories and strategies of women who experienced a big life transition and overcame challenges as they redefined financial success For the. Now, here's your host, certified financial planner, Laura Rotter. 

[00:00:32] Laura Rotter: I am so happy to have as my guest today, Heather Sloan.

She's a mom of two, a friend of many, a community builder, a public health nurse, a former stay-at-home mom, and a spiritual director, and she became a spiritual director because she loves accompanying others in their discernment processes , and tracing grace in their lives. She's been traveling through the significant life altering event of divorce and a very long-term marriage ending.

She has a BA in International Studies from Westmont College and a BS in Nursing from the Johns Hopkins School of Nursing, and she's also completed the Academy of Spiritual Formation and the School of Spiritual Direction programs offered through soul formation based in Portland, Oregon, which is where she lives today.

So Heather, welcome to the podcast. I'm so happy to have you! 

[00:01:33] Heather Sloan: Here. Thank you, Laura. I'm so glad to be here. Thank you for inviting me to talk with you today. 

[00:01:39] Laura Rotter: I am so interested in seeing how our conversation goes. I am going to start with a question I always start my podcast with, which is, What was money like in your family growing up? 

[00:01:53] Heather Sloan: You know, I had sort of a, what I think about as a split experience of money growing up because my parents divorced when I was pretty young and I lived with my mom. I grew up with, always with my mom, so single mom, she was a nurse herself and worked various jobs, often night shift jobs. She sort of struggled through, provide childcare for us and a full-time job, and so money was scarce and there was a lack of money. Though coupled with that was a very profound faith that I sort of inherited that tradition from her. I grew up in the Protestant tradition and she had, she demonstrated and lived and I saw play out as a kid, reliance on god providing for us, and it came in the forms of random checks in the mail.

A hundred dollars would appear. She didn't know who it was from, or people would leave things on our doorstep. It would be sometimes the most arbitrary times. She didn't ask for anything. It just, I just grew up with her language around, you know, God and Angels, and the people, the community around us. And so I feel really shaped by that.

I grew up in Lake Tahoe, California and LA for the large part. I moved there when I was seven and graduated high school there. And I didn't take that environment for granted, but when then you move away, it just gets a deeper profundity, I think, to, you know, kind of that experiencing beauty in the outdoor world sort of became the lens of which I thought about where I wanted to be in next in the world.

That's how I chose college. , what are pretty places? I didn't know really anything about where to go to college, but I thought about the environments colleges were in. So that was, sort of one lens. Then my dad was a physician and he moved to the Midwest when I was a kid. I would go there six weeks of summer and a week every Christmas.

So there was a rhythm to ongoing time with him, and he just had a completely different life in terms of the flow of money. It did feel like a very stark contrast, like, whatever materially I might want or a need, it wasn't a thought for him to be able to provide it if I, asked for it or needed something he could provide for that.

So, there was that. It was an interesting experience of like actual abundance of dollars in, in the immediate life with him but, more of my year round experience being a big lack of dollars in the life with my mom. So I, I think both things shaped me. I have an appreciation for, and a being okay with, you know, like giving myself permission, the to want nice things and to enjoy and receive nice things, but also a huge capacity to do without and not.

You know, I don't need these things, so I, I feel like I got a conglomeration of all of these perspectives and, you know, still growing and learning and tracking. You know what, I'm not without my fears. A around money. There's still things that show up in wobbly places, but at the deepest level, That awareness that comes out of my faith.

Also, that there is enough, from my faith perspective, there is an abundance in this world and to lean into that and everything that's out there is already available to me in some ways, just enlarging my capacity to. Stay open to that and watch for that and the miracles and not hang on tightly to things.

I mean, I think that's what I aspire towards wanting, wanting to live that way in my. Mind and my heart and, and, and then of course then there's realities and things. I bump up against it. I realize, you know, that's not what's playing out. I got some fear gripping me, but just to, when I catch that, I think the trick is just to catch it.

I mean, catch it and to question it. Examine that fear and what's the truth about that, and then let me peel back that layer and I find I can eventually get to a place of being steady and at ease again, and trusting, come back to a place of trust. all will be well. 

[00:06:29] Laura Rotter: I mean, Heather, I'm hearing how now as an adult that you are very aware of the role faith played in your mother's life and it plays in your life.

Do you have a memory of when you, you know, chose, you said you chose college for the geographic area, but was there. At that point in your life when you were around 20, give or take a sense of either needing to earn money or not interested in money, like what was your relationship at that point and how did it affect how you thought about college or, or first job after college? 

[00:07:07] Heather Sloan: In thinking about college, I did have, have had these two houses, my mom got remarried, my dad got remarried. So I sort of started to, you know, experience my life as I had two families and I just, everything just got bigger, more, more families, more siblings and, and staying that, because there were two households that could contribute towards paying for my college.

And I had that as a way to make some choices and options that were available to. because of that, that might not have other been wise been the case. And so I don't, I, I was at ease. I, I, I got scholarships and that supplemented part of my tuition and that sort of thing, so I didn't have stress around money and attending college, I started working when I was 12 years old at the pizza shop in Lake Tahoe.

So I had a long history of having a part-time job and earning money towards things I wanted to do or things I needed that were beyond what was just household provisions and had saved up for a long time. I was very shaped by my, my choice of my major, which I was a small school. There were not exactly the kind of.

Exactly the major I wanted to do, but I chose a path of this international studies that you had to live abroad first semester, and there were only a couple options of where you could do that. And I went to Latin America and I had this idea planted in me when I was there. I was just so turned on by, I was in Costa Rica and doing biology stuff.

Research and projects and really into the environmental questions around environmental stewardship and caretaking and protection of rainforests and land and that kind of thing that I, my idea, and I was a junior at that point in college, that when I graduated, I was, I didn't know exactly what my job was going to be, but I was going to go back to.

Central America somewhere and work. I, I wanted to use my Spanish and be part of somehow this environmental work. And as life as things happen, as it does my, I met and started dating the person who become my husband before I graduated. And just, you know, as we just started to make choices around shaping.

You know, what I was going to do around what it worked for him and what we want. We, you know, turning the I into the we and there wasn't a sense of freedom around. There was always, as a young adult, then developing sense of making choices around the other, working around the other person. You know, both mutually doing that, taking turns.

But it's a different thing than somebody. Launches into the world on their own, just doing whatever their nose is, sniffing down the next trail, trying things, you know, in your twenties. I, I didn't, that wasn't my experience. So I had that ongoing interest for inter international work. We ended up going to be Peace Corps volunteers a year into our marriage, and that was very shaping and significant for both of us.

[00:10:10] Laura Rotter: So how did you make that decision and where were you located in the Peace Corps?

[00:10:14] Heather Sloan: He wanted to go, his idea when I first met him, we were first dating, was to go right into grad school. He wanted to be an English major English professor, and, and somehow through the course of our navigating, I can't remember all the details now, but.

it evolved into him being willing and open to taking, you know, not going straight into that pathway and us doing some kind of international service together. And so we, I was part of this environmental association with my school. Very, seems like random, but this person in charge of the greater organization, it was national, asked if we would go help some, set up some work in Honduras and we said yes, and we were engaged for almost a year.

And that whole engagement, we're anticipating going to Honduras for a year to do this environmental sort of project work. And then just a couple months before our wedding, It just got canceled. It just like evaporated. There was trouble in Honduras and I don't know, it was really hard to pivot and we were so just only focused on, that was what we were going to do.

A little bit long story, but how we chose a Peace Corps to apply to was, it was so, it was compared to what had just, we had experienced with that organization. Peace Corps just seemed solid. They had their act together, they were. So, we applied to that and. After about seven or eight months, got an assignment in Eritrea, which is Northeast Africa.

I'd done some traveling and living in other places besides Latin America, but I'd never been to the Cotton of Africa and it just, it taught me that I could go anywhere in the world and appreciate. So much about wherever that was. It just widened, it widened the world in what I was open to in new ways than just, I was so singularly focused on Latin America.

Just because of my education and my language skills, but it really widened that in a way that I just felt the world got a lot bigger. 

[00:12:21] Laura Rotter: You know, hearing you reflect first as you were growing up, how aware you were of the natural beauty and. And now hearing you again with sort of again, a faith-based message that you have resilience.

You can go anywhere, whether or not you have language skills, whether or not you know the culture, that experience you took. A sense of your own strength and your own ability to adapt, in addition to just the, you know, the magic of, you know, what that Peace Corps experience must have been. So, Heather, I know that you are a practicing nurse.

When in your, you know, life's journey, did that come up? Because you know, right now as a Peace Corps volunteer, you're teaching English. So how did healthcare evolve out of either environmentalism or teaching? 

[00:13:12] Heather Sloan: I still look back. I'm like, how did that happen? I know how it happened, but I never wanted to be a nurse.

It happened in the Peace Corps because I was, this was pre-internet days really didn't exist. We were still, it was 97, 98. Internet was just barely a thing when we went, so, There was no cell phones, , none of that. They had a lending library in the Capitol where volunteers left their books and also their graduate school materials that we all sent people would send away for.

It was common that after Peace Corps, people were coming back to do some kind of graduate programs, so they'd send away for all those paper brochures, read through them and leave them in the lending library. One day when we had been visiting the capitol and switching our books out, I perused that bookshelf of the grad school programs and just happened to pull off Johns Hopkins nursing.

It was like an accelerated nursing program with a Peace Corps scholarship. I discovered, oh, there's these scholarships. So it wasn't graduate school, but it was a, it was a, as a bachelor's degree in nursing that I could get for in 13. I would never have had that interest except for what I, this guy who was in one of this, people on staff with a Peace Corps, grownups, , that were there in charge of us.

The, the country director, there's these different people that are based in the capitol. And do your training and are there for your emergency situations or whatever. One of the guys was, he would pop into our trainings and give us vaccinations. He would talk about clean water and staying safe in the country and mental health and.

I just, he seemed like I had a cool job. I didn't see him that much, but what he was doing, it was, I'm like, what is, what is his job title and how does he get to do this? And it turned out he was a nurse. He didn't have a higher degree in nursing. He wasn't a PA or a doctor. He gave me an idea. And then I found this grad program and I think I at that, Still had an openness to living and working internationally.

And my spouse at the time, we kind of talked around, you know, would we, could we do this? What would it mean to live inter and work internationally and kind of sacrifice having roots, but you know, the pros and cons of, we kind of were examining that and I wanted to stay open to that. as you know, just it seemed like a vehicle to do more international work transportable.

So, it was just that little bit of stuff that kind of got those seeds that got planted into my mind and then a war broke out between the two countries while we were there. You know, we got evacuated a year short and they evacuated us to Romania as kind of a holding pattern to debrief us and they. Set you loose back into the US until they do have this process that they make sure you're healthy and give you all kinds of tests and some training and those sorts of things.

Anyway, it was somewhere West Africa and we had a very short timeline to decide, and I said to my partner, I said, well, I have this idea of what I might start on the path doing when I get. He didn't, and I said, I think it'll be harder for you if we go back, because you got to sort of figure out what do you want to do?

It'll, it's just going to be harder. So, I'm okay with whatever we do. There's pros and cons to either, we talked about all the pros and cons and I left it up to him to decide kind of for that reason. And he's like, okay, let's go back. So, We came back and I, that's what I did. I started working part-time and taking pre, pre-reqs for nursing school and then off we went to that, and then he went to grad school.

He figured out what he wanted to do and went to grad school just as I finished my nursing program. 

[00:17:05] Laura Rotter: Now it makes more sense exactly as you described it, Heather, not so much as an adjunct to like your mother doing it, but that you. Always imagined yourself not in the same geographic area, but having transferrable skills that you could do anywhere, basically based in Oregon from the time you came back, or were you in California at that point? 

[00:17:29] Heather Sloan: We came back, we moved back to our college town where we had some, had friends still, and that's where I did pre-reqs and we both worked and then we moved to Baltimore for a year. He, he applied to school while we were there. He went to North Carolina before I was even done with my program. And I was, I got pregnant sort of, not timed, but not unwelcome either, but just while I was in nursing school and.

I graduated eight months pregnant , and so, kind of promptly I graduated and had a baby and Mo relocated to be with him where he was at grad school and we carried on in that building our early lives in North Carolina. And then his, his job offer out of grad school was in Portland, Oregon. So, we relocated for that.

didn't have any family, just kind of had a, a, a pull back to the west coast. We both liked the West coast and the work-life balance was sort of a selling point from the program he was coming from and versus going to east coast. 

[00:18:37] Laura Rotter: The West coast is just beautiful as someone who lives east and has always been a, a New Yorker

Whenever I go out west, the beauty and the easy availability of outdoor sports, whether it's skiing or mountain biking or hiking, it's just, I think it's, I imagine it's a different work-life balance. So I guess the big transition I'm aware of is, , you are still working as a nurse, but when did it come up to becoming a spiritual director?

And you did talk a about that faith has always played a big role in your life. 

[00:19:19] Heather Sloan: Going back at least 10 years from now. I grew up being part of a faith community of one sort. No denomination. Just tried to and attended lots of them growing up, but At some point, at least 10 years ago, maybe 12, I just in living it and experiencing it, it was a little bit of maybe the dark, I didn't realize it was happening, but until I was further into it.

But a little bit of that dark night of the soul, that spiritual seeking, like just, it's just spiritual growth to my next development and level. . It was a painful, like being in a dark tunnel at times, but also like a bloodhound on a trail. I just sniffing, sniffing, sniffing down anything, you know, I'd catch the scent of this and I'd go that way.

I'd read this book and then that book would reference a couple other core resources and I would read those books and so I just, I was doing that and I think at the heart of that, at least one piece of it was decision making and discernment and listening for the what I'll say The voice of God was sort of my lens filter.

I was like, how do other people hear, see, feel, guided? It was kind of that I was noticing here and there and these books that I was reading. That people might mention the word spiritual director and I kind of gloss over it. I didn't know what it was. I had no, I'd never heard of it before. But the more I saw it, and by more I mean like maybe eight different authors mentioned it in, you know, 50 books I read.

So that's the more it. It wasn't that common, but at the end of one, from one book to the next, a friend gave me. Her son was going to go to a school that was Jesuit in nature and she didn't, she's Catholic, but she didn't know anything about the Jesuit. So she had read this book on St. Ignatius to learn a little bit more about the lens of this school's education.

She lent me the book that was like my giant Aha. I running into St. Ignatius was like, I felt like I got to the end at least. That long bloodhound sniffing journey, which led me to a spiritual direction. I didn't. He's sort of the father in the, in the Christian tradition at least. It's not exclusive to that.

I think every faith has its own forms of this, but he goes back hundreds of years. It's like a science really. He took the grist and grind of his own life. I won't go into his story, but it's in that book. And he developed these tools for discernment, spiritual discernment, and out of his people sought him out.

He just did it for his own life, but he became a teacher and a mentor, and the Jesuit order was founded. And so, I was just intrigued. I'm like, who are these people? I want to talk to one. I want a spiritual director. Even though I don't, I still don't really get what it is, but I just I started asking around, I, I tried one.

I Googled it, you know, where, where can I go? Nobody in my church talked about this. Nobody. I knew spoke about it, so it was still mysterious. I didn't know where to find when I, I went to a monastery in the greater Portland area and talked with a sister who did spiritual direction, but I left and I was little like, anyway, then I, one conversation left to another, I talked to this guy, friends, like, oh, talk to my one spiritual director we've heard of is in Canada.

Called him and he's like, he, he explained what it was in a way that I could get more. He listened to me. He is like, yeah, I think you would benefit. And it seems like you are in a position where you, you know, pursuing, being in a relationship or trying to have a. Do spiritual direction yourself. Sounds like you are in the right space for it.

And he's like, I don't know anybody in the United States except for, oh, this one guy, he used to live in Canada, but he moved to the us but I lost track of him. So I Googled his name and he was in Portland. He founded Soul Formation. I found his name on the website, but I also found like four others. I called all of 'them.

All of them in the directory. They all did Spiritual direction. The first person that called me back happened to be a Jesuit. He was a former Jesuit priest for like 20 years. He tried to send me out with, here's a bunch of other directors, tried to explain, you know, there's, you know, somebody who's Mennonite and quicker and, you know, Feel your way around and just sort of listen and see what might resonate with you.

But when I went into his office, begin prefacing that whole conversation, I sat down and I'm like, I don't know what this is, but yes, and I want his job. Like that was my thought. And I was like, where? Well, what is that thought like I don't, I noted it. I noted that inside myself was just a big yes, a yes to whatever this might be, and a.

To this mystery of wanting to be in his seat, doing his job, , even though didn't understand what it was. So that, that's a long story of the beginning. I'm still in direction with him and started me on a journey to begin the training, which was to do the, the program of the Academy of Spiritual Formation first as a prerequisite for that program, for this spiritual direction.

And I just was like, well, let me do this, and. , I was kind of feel my way through it and see if I still feel pulled towards doing the, I go, yes, I will do this. Yes, I want to do it. I don't have to or even understand what it means on the other side of doing it, but it felt like stepping into some shoes of somebody who I already was.

[00:25:13] Laura Rotter: That's so beautifully said, Heather. As we come to the end of our time together, I do think that you are a woman as, as you've presented today, who does have a very strong, intuitive voice, whether it's as you were younger, Being someone drawn to the beauty and nature and outside and then always knowing you wanted to travel and having that inform your decision to join the Peace Corps to become a nurse.

There is a very strong sense. I guess I get the sense you've learned and done practices to really hear that inner voice that very much knows what's the right path for you to take. And in terms of. This particular podcast that strong voice has not necessarily, you know, as I hear it that much attention to what's the right financial decision, right?

I don't, I never know anyone who said they went to the Peace Corps to make a lot of money and spiritual direction. Likewise, people don't become spiritual directors because of, you know, the large paycheck. So, , my question to you is, You know, these years that we've, you know, quickly talked about, Heather, have you had a sense of a shift in how you define financial success?

Or is, have you always sort of consistently felt a sense of the right thing to do? Curious, have you, if have experienced it?

[00:26:49] Heather Sloan: I guess when you say shift, I don't connect it so much with specific financial, but more global. I think a big shift that. and is still very much happening in that journey of my sort of, that led me to spiritual direction and the ongoing sort of, I'll say, intimacy with the divine.

I, think that's what I resonate with the most. It is for me, about a relationship, what the big shift in my life, and so this is global, includes finance. And so this is not practical specifics, but I think for so long I was looking towards the outside, including God, like, tell me what to do, show me what to do.

And this, a big shift has been looking to myself like learning to trust myself and understanding that as part of my God-given capacity to. Participate and co-create my life. I think owning, I can't blame anything particular. It's just sort of the worldview lens. Partly I feel like I did sort of inherit, inherit, not necessarily spoken, but in these unconscious perfused ways within particular faith tradition I came from.

The big shift for me and my life in recent years is that I'm excited about it showing up in more. and deepening ways with around my finances. I prefaced; I think the outset of onset of this interview. I'm in the midst of his three year divorce process, so that's been a huge limbo stage for me and a lot of financial.

Active financial, personal management decisions completely on hold for my life. So I'm poised for the next evolution of how this will get applied. I'm, I'm ready. I feel kind of like a bridled horse with like , the horse just wants a run, but I, I feel like the rain just pulled back on me. Getting further educated and kind of doing what I've sniffing down the spiritual direction.

Like what do I need to learn? What do I not know? What, you know, how do, what are the smart choices to make with managing my money now as a person at this age life stage with these ingredients I have to work with and. Forecasting, you know, 20 years down the line to the best. I might be able to imagine and inviting God into that.

Like, okay, I'm going to make some stuff up and these are my dreams and these are my hopes and I'm going to go and try and, you know, that, I think that's a big shift that does apply to my finances. I just don't know that I. The capacity to manifest it fully. The stuck nature of my situation for a little bit longer.

[00:29:49] Laura Rotter: This Idea of participating in co-creating your life, and that so resonates with me, Heather, so many of us, myself included, can go through our days feeling like we're a victim. Of our lives, and yet we all have the ability to, as you said, to be the author of our lives just by waking up reframing and realizing.

No, I can make the choices. And also recognizing, as you've so beautifully said, that it's an eye that includes much more than just us and our egos, but truly the relationship we have with the divine, the relationship we have with spirit, with the universe, however we want to say it, but the idea that the universe.

Is here to love us, is love in some way, and to trust it. And to trust where we're being guided. Is there anything else you'd like to add? And if anyone who's listening to this is, is looking for, you know, a spiritual director or a guide to make their choices and not be a victim of their lives, how can people contact you and anything else you'd like them to know?

[00:31:09] Heather Sloan: I can be found on Soul formations websites. They have a list of spiritual directors in the Pacific, Northwest and beyond. People come from all over the world to get the training there and then scatter back out. But there's a long list of names you can peruse. You can read more about what spiritual direction is, at least framed in that particular faith perspective and can send you the.

Laura, I will have the length in the show notes and the, I like, I'll say this quickly as we close the description. I like that's useful for me. Understanding spiritual direction is it's like a triangle where God, universe, whatever you're. Ideas of, you know, divine. I think people don't come to it if they don't have a sense of there being something bigger and larger than themselves.

So if that's the premise that you're coming to, you're both people are listening to the conversation, the, the triangle line between the divine and. We'll say the Directee. These are not perfect words. I'm not as a director, I'm not directing anybody to do anything. It's just kind of the, the label that is attached to this work.

But the director is listening as is the directee to that conversation between the Directee, him or herself and the divine. And so, you're a listening companion and. You're able to just be another set of eyes as somebody shares and opens up, you know, how is their soul and what's going on and what are the struggle points and where's the friction often, where there's frictional edge points.

That's good material for. Bringing into spiritual direction because it's often where our growth edges are and where there's information that's available to be paying attention to. So you're somebody helping pay attention to that for another. 

[00:33:10] Laura Rotter: Thank you so Much for summarized spiritual direction and can see that it really is a calling for you.

So glad to have learned about it and what you're doing with your life. So, thank you so much, Heather, for being my. guest.

I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Heather Sloan, a public health nurse, and now a spiritual director. I have a couple of takeaways from our conversation, and the first one is that abundance comes in many forms. Not all of which are monetary. Heather noted that she grew up in an area that had enormous outdoor beauty, a place that offered, in her words, an extravagance of miracles and beauty.

And so, she experienced abundance in her childhood. Another takeaway is learning to trust. Heather describes a faith-based trust in her own strengths, in her resilience, in her ability to be anywhere and do anything specifically. She describes her intention to spend time in Latin America teaching English, where she was comfortable with the culture and the.

And instead being stationed with the Peace Corps in Africa and appreciating her own ability to adapt to this change. My final takeaway is that often the path we take to become who we were meant to be is meandering. Heather described choosing to pursue a nursing degree, not because it was her passion, but because there were study materials in the lending library in.

Because the Peace Corps offered a scholarship and it seemed like a vehicle to doing more international work, and her path to becoming a spiritual director has been similarly meandering. Are you enjoying this podcast? Please don't forget to subscribe so that you won't miss next week's episode. And if you love the.

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