A conversation with Angela Wilson, author, speaker, and founder of Angela Unlimited. Angela serves women who are open minded, open hearted, are seeking a different way of living, and are ready to explore change.
Angela Wilson is an author, speaker and founder of Angela Unlimited. Angela assists women to tap into their inner courage, empower them to start living by their own story and the life they deserve, and have money become a tool in that life.
Angela shared her personal journey towards financial literacy and empowerment. Growing up in a household where money was a taboo topic, Angela navigated her early adult life facing generational differences in financial experiences. She overcame these obstacles and pursued a career in accounting despite discouragement, eventually starting her own practice focused on the nonprofit sector.
Angela discusses the importance of embracing all life experiences, learning to ask for help, and recognizing opportunities. She shares her strategies for staying positive and motivated, including saving uplifting messages from clients and creating a holistic "dream map" for her business. Angela's mission is to empower women, especially those in transitional phases of life, to achieve financial independence and live an "unlimited life."
“I assist mature women that are in what I call that season of transition. So you know, maybe the kids have left the house, Maybe you did just get divorced, maybe you just widowed, and it's really that transition and you're looking for something more, or where do I go from here? And you don't necessarily know how to how to get there, but you know there's something that you want to go after, and so I help them to tap into what do you really desire and what would your unlimited life look like?” - Angela Wilson
Key takeaways:
- Know that all your life experiences, good and bad, contribute to where you are today. Angela shared that when her relationship with her first husband ended, she was so insecure financially that she was not even sure if she could afford a latte! Though it was a very difficult time for her, she does not regret living through this, as well as other, tough periods because they brought her to where she is today.
- Learn how to ask for help. Angela was not used to asking for help from others. Yet she was able to make it through a difficult period in her life by, for the first time ever, asking for help from her friends.
- Recognize that things line up the way they’re supposed to line up. Angela’s friend recommended that she attend a workshop. Angela’s first reaction was that it was way too expensive for her. But when she realized that it was taking place the following week at a location twenty minutes from her home, and that the next one was a year away in a far away location, she decided to attend - and that was an opening for her.
About the guest:
Angela Wilson is an international best-selling author, captivating speaker, and founder of Angela Unlimited, dedicated to empowering women to live a life rich in every aspect. Her work and personal journey reflect a deep commitment to helping women to find their authentic voice, and to embrace an "Unlimited Life."
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Angela Wilson
I assist mature women that are in what I call that season of transition. So, you know, maybe the kids have left the house. Maybe, maybe you did just get divorced. Maybe, maybe you just widowed. And it's really that transition and you're looking for something, something more, or where do I go from here? And you don't necessarily know how to How to get there.
But you know, there's something that you want, you want to go after. And so I helped them to tap into, you know, what do you really desire and what would your unlimited life look like?
Narrator
Welcome to making change with your money, a podcast that highlights the stories and strategies of women who experienced a big life transition and overcame challenges as they redefined financial success for themselves.
Now, here's your host. Certified financial planner, Laura Rotter.
Laura Rotter
I am so excited to have as my guest today, Angela Wilson. Angela is an author, speaker, and founder of Angela Unlimited, dedicated to empowering women to live a life rich in every aspect. Her work and personal journey reflect a deep commitment.
To helping women to find their authentic voice and to embrace an unlimited life. Welcome Angela, to the making change with your money podcast.
Angela Wilson
Oh, I'm so glad to be here, Laura. Thank you.
Laura Rotter
Looking forward to our conversation. I will start as I always do. With the question, what was money like in your family growing up?
Angela Wilson
I think everybody has a story about that. And so mine was really that. You know, money wasn't talked about at all. Money was a, was a hushed conversation in that I grew up believing you didn't talk about money and it was actually rude to talk about money. So you just didn't. And so my parents dealt with that very much, like between the two of them.
And so I grew up thinking, well, you have to do that all alone and you're not supposed to, you know, Involve anybody else in it, but you know, I find it so crazy from the standpoint of how do we learn if we don't ask questions and how do we learn? If nobody really teaches us,
Laura Rotter
It's so true. I've often thought about this because my kids come and ask me questions like they don't teach it in high school.
They don't teach personal finance in college. How is someone supposed to know how much you're supposed to spend on things? What a credit card is. It's really financial literacy is so low. What was modeled to you by your parents, Angela?
Angela Wilson
So what was really modeled was that, you know, we, we had everything that we needed, but at the same time it was, you know, you, you didn't owe anyone anything and you made sure that you had cash for everything that you, that you needed to, to have.
And, and if you didn't, then you did without until you had the cash. And so, you know, for me, especially, you know, when I became, you know, a young adult, so, you know, in my, in my late twenties, I I came out of university with a bank loan and that wasn't something that was done in my, you know, in my upbringing.
And it was not long after that I had a mortgage for my first home and that was unheard of as well. So, you know, I kind of came out of the gate thinking, I'm doing something really wrong here. And I'm like, I'm not living up to what I, where I should be. And that's not the truth at all. What I didn't realize was At that time was the world was a very, very different place from when my parents were my age.
And even from when my siblings were my age, it was a very different place.
Laura Rotter
So that was a very interesting comment, Angela. So is there a large age difference between you and your siblings?
Angela Wilson
It's not significant, significant. My, my oldest sibling is six and a half years older than I am. And my other one is four and a half.
So there's enough of a difference that it's, uh, we are in different generations, but at the same time too, my life. I chose different things than they chose. So when I, you know, when I came, when I was buying a home, it was just, yeah, I had to have a mortgage. That's, that's the way it went.
Laura Rotter
So please share with our listeners the choices you made.
You talked about having a loan when you went to university. Were you unique in going to university? Was that expected in your family? What, what was the thought about education?
Angela Wilson
Well, it's interesting. I don't remember it ever being. necessarily said out loud, but I know that there was an X, an expectation of higher education from the standpoint of my parents wanted us to do basically whatever we wanted to do, but they wanted us to, to like, you know, stretch beyond where we, where we were.
And so I was always set on, I was going to university. And this is one of those stories I always, I always tell that is coming out of high school. You don't know what you really want to do.
Anyway, and so it was interesting. I chose to become a, an accountant. So I am a designated CPA. And interesting, my, you know, my grade 13 accounting teacher told me that I couldn't do it and that, you know, not to, not to even bother. And at that point I'd had so many teachers tell me that I wasn't good at stuff and that I just went, okay, come on.
Surely I can, you know, 18 year old brain said, surely I can add and subtract. Accounting is a lot more to it than that, but that's the 18 year old brain. So I went to, so I went to university and I got, you know, my, my degree that I could then go on and get my designation. So that was one of the choices that I, that I made that, you know, again, that's, that's four years of university.
Laura Rotter
Yes. And I'm curious what strength you saw in yourself that had you choose to go sort of the science and math route rather than softer liberal arts.
Angela Wilson
Well, you know, it's quite interesting from the standpoint, I kind of already started to allude to this. I was told I wasn't good at pretty much everything when I was in high school.
Laura Rotter
You had terrible teachers.
Angela Wilson
Well, it was one of those, it was one of those things, right? Yeah,
Laura Rotter
It was an age. It was an age.
Angela Wilson
It really was an age. And, you know, to be honest, there was not, I didn't see anything else really presented to me that. I could go that I, that I even thought of. So when accounting kind of came up, I was like, okay, horrible, horrible way to choose your profession.
You know, but at the same time, I think sometimes when we have other, other things around us, again, I grew up in a very small area. So, you know, you didn't have the same things of, You know, I didn't know some of the other professions that were out there. What I chose differently, I don't know. This was the path.
Laura Rotter
Exactly. And Angela, I think so many of us sort of thought we, we imagine that we're supposed to be planning out our lives. And of course we learn as we get older that. You know, it's a miria meandering path and, and we can look back and see how choices we've made informed the next step and the next step.
And that's a more helpful, again, thinking about your terrible teachers who were negative. It's more helpful to look back and see how it informed rather than to look back in regret.
Angela Wilson
Mm-Hmm. . Oh, absolutely. Right.
Laura Rotter
And CPA is a fine skill and designation to have. So I was going to ask how long you practiced or if you practiced as a CFO.
Angela Wilson
Oh, I did. Yes. So I worked, um, you know, early in my career, I was in the big accounting firms, jumped out of the big accounting firms into a CFO position and was there for many years, had a couple of other positions, director of finance, that type of thing. And then what I did was I decided, I really wanted to do something different with that part of my life.
So I started my own accounting practice and I narrowed it right down, um, to being director of finance, finance supervisor, accounting supervisor, whatever the organization wanted to call me. In the not for profit sector, violence against women and children in youth sector. Yeah. So what I did was I, I did many clients to make full time and I loved it because you know, the not for profit sector, they so need that level of experience and expertise, but they don't have the funds to be able to pay somebody full time or even like significant part time.
So it worked out really, it worked out really well for them and worked out great for me.
Laura Rotter
So you're a consultant essentially for a group of non profits and have you always been in Canada? You shared that you're in the Toronto area now. Is that where you grew up?
Angela Wilson
No, I didn't. I actually grew up in a beautiful area of Ontario called Muskoka, which is our main cottage country in Ontario.
And uh, yeah, so, but I had, so that's only, so I, as I said, I'm just west of Toronto, so I'm about three hours from where I grew up.
Laura Rotter
Oh, that's so nice. So obviously you enjoy it there. So to situate us, how old were you when you moved to work for yourself and, and consult for nonprofits?
Angela Wilson
I would have been About mid thirties when I did that about my mid thirties, and I did that from well from 2006 until present because I still have a couple of clients in that in that realm.
Laura Rotter
So what shifted for you that had you, you know, looking to help other women and start yet another. Another business. Another business.
Angela Wilson
Well, again, it comes out of, it comes out of things that we learn in our lives and stories that we tell ourselves in our lives. And I was in a very unhealthy long term relationship, which ended.
And when it ended, I did not know who I was at all. And so I had to build and remember myself and figure out who am I because I, in that relationship, I completely lost my voice in that I kind of spoke when I was spoken to. I was very quiet. I know that's hard to believe now that I'm on a podcast doing this but that, but It really was.
And so out of the experiences in that and being so I'll tell you one quick short story on this one being a CPA and having everything, you know, completely handled for my clients, everything going on the problem. Part of the problem at that time was I didn't have the mindset in my household to have everything.
Laura Rotter
As nice as how I had it for my clients, right? What did they say? They always say the shoemakers children go without shoes, right?
Angela Wilson
Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, and I, and I heard several messages about that in my personal life. And so it really was, you know, when, when that relationship ended, I was at a spot where I, I honestly did not know if I could afford a latte.
Now I could, but I didn't have the mindset to be able to go, to be able to stop myself from, from going to that spot of, I don't think I can, I don't think I can. And so I had to, you know, and so out of that timeframe, I really looked at it and went, okay, just a second. I have a successful business. I'm okay.
And then I started thinking, how do other people, how do other women do this? How do they do this? And so it really started.
Laura Rotter
And I'm sorry, do this is go out independently and start all over and all over again. I had a business, but I guess you were. Reliant on someone else financially or you imagined what, what, what was the shift?
Angela Wilson
Well, it was so it was really so there was a combined income in in the home
Laura Rotter
You shared because I don't take that granted as someone who works for couples. Not everyone combines their finance
Angela Wilson
No, exactly. So it was it was a combined, you know a combined situation and it was very much You know, so I didn't know, gee, can, can I afford to live by myself?
Can I afford, yes, I could, but I didn't know that at that time. So that was part of the process for me to remember who I, who I was and my strengths, and then, you know, step into those. And so I really wanted to start living a life to pay forward to other women that they didn't have to go through some of the hiccups that I went through.
And it's really too about the. Women standing so much in their power and in their courage because we all have amazing inner courage. Sometimes we just don't necessarily see it. The other side of it is I work with a lot of women that are very successful. And if you see them, you think they have everything going on because the outside is crystal perfect.
But on the inside, they have that, those little gremlins talking to them in the back going, really, do you think you can do this? Really? Who makes you think that you can do this?
Laura Rotter
Those types of things. Impostor syndrome and self sufficiency. Yeah. What I'm hearing also, Angela, is that You know, and one of the reasons I asked that question at the beginning is that your story, even when you, when I heard you before say, I'm doing this wrong, I shouldn't have debt to go to university.
I shouldn't have debt to buy a house that somehow you internalized. And the teacher that tells you you couldn't do anything you somehow internalize this sense that you must be doing something wrong even as you say you were you ran your own business you helped other people make financial decisions and yet your story.
That's you internalized had little and maybe nothing to do with the facts on the ground. And so I certainly hear your mission that you're drawn as you went through this to help other women in similar situations. But can you share, really give us a sense of What it was like for you at the beginning and, and the practices perhaps that you took on to help you recognize your strengths.
I mean, you already shared you were a little bit afraid to even buy a latte. What was it like? You had to find a place to live. What did you come up against?
Angela Wilson
Yeah. So, you know, I had to find a place to, a place to live and I, and I figured that, I figured it out. You know, it's one of those things, it's, you figure it out and, and so one of the things that I want to say is, you know, everything that I've gone through in my life, one of, one of the things I always make a point of saying is I regret none of them.
Even though, even though they were, at times they were so, so hard, I don't regret any of them because they brought me to where I am and I love where I am, you know, and that, it's so important. For that. So I just wanted to say that at this point. So really where, how I gained, you know, how I moved forward was for the first time ever I asked for help.
I actually, you know, I, I had dear friends, thank goodness for them in the, in the initial days. And then one of my friends said, you know what, I want you to go and talk. I want you to go and take this, this class, this workshop. And you know, I remember going, I can't spend that kind of money on a workshop, are you crazy?
And then I looked at it and I went, oh, this workshop's not going to happen for another, I think it was a full year because it was going to be different places, so they didn't have access to it. And that particular one was going to be like in a week or two, and it was about a 20 minute drive from my house.
Again, you know, things line up the way they're supposed to line up. And I went to that and that was, that was one, that was another opening for me because I, that workshop was called get out of your own way. And the host of it was Jennifer Huff from the white awakening. And when I went to it, I, for the first time understood that when I actually spoke, people listened.
And I was like, Oh, cause I didn't understand that. And I was like, okay. And so then, you know, it just, it just kept taking, taking steps and, and, you know, going through different, different processes and really just, you know, one of the big things that I took on was I, I started a practice of gratitude.
Gratitude is huge in my life. And, you know, when I, when it was first suggested to me. It was suggested that I write down 10 things. And I was like, okay, I can, I can write down two or three. I can't write down 10. And now, like, I'm a big journaler. I journal pretty much every day. And when I do at the end of my journaling, I, it's as many gratitude statements as want to fly out of me, fly out of me onto the page, because I'm so grateful for the life that I have.
And I'm grateful for, you know, all, all the blessings in my life.
Laura Rotter
That's so beautiful. And even as you say that it sticks with me. Someone had brought this up and now I think about it every time I turn the hot water on in my sink or take a shower to be grateful for that and not to take for granted, you know, to be having this conversation with you and to be grateful for the technology that allows it for the networks that allowed us to meet each other.
So many things in our lives. And of course, bigger things. It's wonderful if we can show gratitude for that, but just as important to, to be aware and grateful for the things that others might just take for granted. And as you talked about the strengths that you took for granted before you started these practices, can you please share these strengths that you've identified in yourself?
Angela Wilson
So for me, it's, I do have. an immense amount of courage inside, or I wouldn't be here today. I know that without a fact. And it's that, you know, it's that strength. It's also, it's my, I always say my tenacity is, is, is one of my, is one of my great strengths. I'm, it's also my, my listening skills. And that's what, you know, when I'm working with my women, it's, you know, they need nonjudgmental ears.
To be able to talk to, and I think that that's another one of one of my skill sets is that I can be in a conversation and not have any judgment in it. That's one of those things that for me, I very much in my life now gravitate to people that are not judgy. And if you're too judgy, then I'm sorry, you're not in my circle.
Because it's just, it takes, it takes too much for me. It just depletes my energy. And I'm like, no, thank you. I want to be around people that are here to lift each other up, have those big conversations. I love those big conversations. I call them juicy conversations and really, you know, they're thriving in their life.
Laura Rotter
You'd agree that you get to a point in your life. Where you can choose the spaces that you want to be in and the people you want to be connecting with. I feel like my experience when I started this business was, you know, I just have to network, network, network, and any group networking event, I was there.
Whether or not it was people that I really felt comfortable with that I felt were my tribe, if you will. And, you know, now many years into my business, I pick and choose who I want to connect with.
Angela Wilson
Absolutely. And I think, you know, the other side of that is I always look at it. There are more, more than enough clients in the world for all of us.
And so that's why I I don't have a problem talking with other people that do something similar to what I do because I believe that there's people that can hear my voice that can't hear someone else's voice. And there's people that can hear their voice and can't hear mine. And it just depends on where we are in our, in our journey.
And I think too, you know, it's, I think there's this thing, and I went through this in a period of my life, where I thought that the people in my life, they were the people that had to stay there forever. And that's not true. People come into our life, I can't remember the complete old saying, but you know, for a season, for a reason, you know, some for a lifetime.
I do have, I have friends that I have been friends with for 50 years. And then I have other people that were in my life that I thought would be in my life for forever and they're not. And it's because our past needed to, to go a different way. And because I was going, you know, I was going this way and then we're going that way and it's okay.
And I think when we're younger, I don't think we realize it's okay for people to leave our lives. and go about doing their own, their own thing. And I think that, that wisdom that we gain as, as we mature is that it's okay. We're not everybody's flavor and that's okay.
Laura Rotter
Right. And we shift in our need shift and our time constraint shift.
That's an important thing to point out. Angela, you talk about your courage. I would assume it was courageous to leave a long term. Relationship. Did that take you a while? Often you think about it before you actually do it. And especially as you communicated the fear you had of, you know, being on your own.
Angela Wilson
Yeah, well, that wasn't my choice. So my courage came picking up the pieces of my life. Because it was a very abrupt end. And I was like, what do I do now? And so I, all I could do was pull on my courage. You know, that's, that's what kept me going day to day was, was that courage. And, you know, even now in my life, it's that we all have bad days.
So, you know, I don't want anybody to think, you know, I'm saying every day is perfect because it's not because we're human, but at the same time, it's that when you're having that little bit of a bad day. It's that, yeah, you know what? I'm okay. I'm okay. And to me that, that's courage as well. And because one of the things that I've really noticed, and this is another one of those kind of learnings I've taken on as I've gone along, is that we tend to, especially as women, we tend to look for the evidence on how things are not working out.
And yet we discount the evidence of all the things that we've actually done, that we've accomplished, that we just like sailed on over. And so I really encourage the, the women that I work with, it's like, no, really remember you have to tap into that evidence because on those days where you're having a bad day, when you tap into the evidence, because on those days.
You're seeing all the evidence on how things aren't working out. So when you then tap into the evidence of no, look, I I've done that. I've done that. I've done that. And go, Oh yeah. You know what? It's just a bad day off. I go.
Laura Rotter
Thank you for sharing that. I love that. I know for myself, I try to keep positive emails that I get from clients for specifically those bad days.
How do you remind yourself of the positive things that you've accomplished?
Angela Wilson
Yeah, well, I, so again, I, I love the same thing as you said, those emails that I get are those telephone calls that I get from clients going, Oh my gosh, Angela, you're never gonna, you're never gonna believe what's happened. And I'm like, yes.
So I save those off into a spot. I also make sure that I, you know, if, if things are going really great, like I have little, little things around my office. Okay, so this is one of those really. Weird little things. So I have this stone that sits on my desk and it's a piece of granite and it comes from where I grew up which is the Canadian Shield which has granite.
So for me it's a touchstone and it reminds me of my courage and my strength and everything's going to be okay because that Canadian Shield has been there for a heck of a long time and I can, I have that same strength that this rock has. So I can do it. So it's, you know, it's having little things like that.
It's having, you know, little, little cards. I got a dear friend mentor sent me this, this lovely little card that had a little card in it saying you move mountains. So that sits on my desk, just as those reminders, we all need those reminders. And, and that's too why I do the work that I do is because, you know, the women that I work with, sometimes they can't see the forest for the trees.
They're amazing women. Sometimes they just need. A friendly ear and a friendly reminder of how amazing they are.
Laura Rotter
So Angela, please share with us, what is Angela Unlimited, when did you start it, who do you work with, how do you work with them?
Angela Wilson
Angela Wilson
So Angela Unlimited is really, so I assist mature women that are in what I call that season of transition.
So you know, maybe the kids have left. The house, maybe, maybe you did just get divorced. Maybe, maybe you just widowed. And it's really that transition and you're looking for something, something more or where do I go from here? And you don't necessarily know how to, how to get there, but you know, there's something that you want, you want to go after.
And so I help them to tap into, you know, what do you really desire? And what would your unlimited life look like and how can we take steps to build, you know, you might call it, I love calling it a dream map from the standpoint of I deal a lot with dreams with my clients and, you know, how do we build a dream map, but a dream map has all different parts.
It's not just about money, but money is a big portion of it, because how are we going to fund that life? And so I come at it from a whole wealth standpoint though, too, from standpoint of yes, it's, it's wealth financially, but it's also wealth in your health, wealth in your relationships. And one of those most important relationships is the relationship to yourself.
Because one thing that I know is if you are not choosing yourself and you're not being the best version of yourself as much as you possibly can every single day, then you're hiding yourself and we weren't put here to play small. We were put here to, to, to, to live our lives. So I work with women in group programming.
I also have one on one coaching that I do. I run retreats. Women can attend.
Laura Roter
And when did you start this business? Before the pandemic? After? How has the business evolved?
Angela Wilson
It's been a bit of a journey. So it started way back. You know, the seed for it started way back when, you know, I didn't know who I was and said, I want to do something.
I want to do something like that. And then, you know, had to get, had to get myself in order. And then, it was about, I think it was about 2016, I was sitting in a little plaza in Spain with my, with my current husband. And I said, Ah, this idea keeps coming back, coming back, coming back. And he goes, tell me all about it.
And I said, okay. So I laid out the whole thing on, on what the vision was. And he said, this is what you're meant to do. And I was like, yeah. So I took a couple of more years just to, again, because I had my, my other practice and I was trying to figure things out. So I really jumped in, I would say about three years ago, like full, more full into this.
Just love it. I love working with, with the clients that I work with. They're just amazing.
Laura Rotter
So it's actually since the pandemic that you started.
Angela Wilson
Yeah.
Laura Rotter
So you started remotely, I'm assuming, and added the retreats as, as people came out of hiding.
Angela Wilson
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, that's one of the beauties that I look at.
Again, you, you mentioned this earlier in the conversation that, you know, the technology that we were, we, we could meet. And we can do these things, you know, that's, I found that and I work with women all over the world and I love it.
Laura Rotter
So how do women find you as you're mentioning that you work with people all over the world?
Angela Wilson
Well, best place to start is you can find me at my website, which is AngelaUnlimited. com and I'm also on Facebook and Instagram. You can find me under Angela Unlimited and LinkedIn. You can find me as Angela Wilson.
Laura Rotter
Thank you so much. All of that will be posted in the show notes. I'm wondering though, how people hear about you and what are people, so people are thinking I'm stuck.
I don't know what the next. thing I'm I am to do what's it sounds like that's really how you came up with the idea because you yourself felt stuck. So is that a similar way that people start thinking I need someone to help me find the next step?
Angela Wilson
Yeah, that's that is a big piece of it. Lots of times my clients have heard me speak somewhere.
And when I'm talking, they're like, that's that that's me. I need to talk to I need to talk to Angela. So you know, there's lots of times where I you know, I'm, you know, Like, I love doing podcasts like I'm doing with you right now. So that's one way that they, that they hear, but you know, I've been on a number of summits and what have you and done a number of speaking engagements in, in person.
And it's really, it's that word of mouth is, I think it's the most precious way to market ourselves in my humble opinion, from the standpoint of I'm building a relationship with the client that I work with. And, you know, they're not going to just see me on a, on a little picture and go, that's the person they might, but they need to, to me, they need to hear my voice and, and really get an understanding of where I've come from, because I've been there and I understand, and that's, that's really key.
When we're working in this type of work is that you have somebody that you can relate to.
Laura Rotter
And when you work with someone, is it a coaching package? So there's an expectation that you'll meet for a number of times. How, how do you, you know, structure?
Angela Wilson
Yeah. So I have, um, I have some group programs that are four week programs, six week program.
I also have. A one on one package that's, you know, six months, year long. And I also do VIP days that then have some, some follow up sessions so that, you know, you, you can check in because again, it's one of those accountability is a huge, a huge piece of this because that's, that's what pulls us forward.
And it, and it's also about, you know, taking that action and keeping in action.
Laura Rotter
Thank you. So as we're coming. To the end of our conversation, Angela, I always like to close by asking my guests, how has your definition of success shifted over the years? And perhaps even financial success, asking a CPA.
Angela Wilson
That is a very interesting question, Laura.
You know, it's interesting because I don't typically use the word success. When I work just from the standpoint of, I find it polarizing in that it means that you either succeed or you fail. And I like to look at things more from, am I going after the things that are really important to me and that I desire and is my life, am I joyful in my life?
And that's more the, the measure points that I am. So for me, it's, and yes, like, so years ago, it was like, you had to have like this house, you had to have this in the bank account, you had to go on these trips, blah, blah, blah. And now it's more, yes, from a financial standpoint, to make sure that there is the abundance, I'm going to say, of funds to be able to live the that I want to live, which is my unlimited life.
And for me, part of that is travel. And there's nothing more exciting for me than to spend time with friends and to laugh and to have a great time and to play. And I think that that that's why I deal with what I say, whole wealth, because it's, it's all, all the parts and parcels of our life. It's not just the financial end of things, because at the end of the day, I want to remember all the beautiful experiences that I've had, all the great, amazing people that were in my life, and also the impact that I had going, going along through my life.
That's, that's what the important thing is.
Laura Rotter
Thank you. I think that is a shift a lot of us make from which is an appropriate shift when we're younger. We want to accumulate stuff. And when you get older, you realize, of course, you need a certain basis. So you can do the things you enjoy. But exactly as you said, joy becomes important because you, you can't take your stuff with you at the end of your life.
Angela Wilson
You sure can't.
Laura Rotter
And. So I, I love hearing from you what you value, as you said, joy, travel, spending time with friends, making a difference. And it sounds like that is how you're measuring success now. And Angela Unlimited is helping you experience that success. So Angela, is there anything else you would like to share with our listeners?
Angela Wilson
I would do, you know, I would share that it's never too late to change things. There's always a path forward and also just don't settle. Don't settle and be comfortable because that's what's, you know, it's okay. Go for the great, go for the amazing life, the life that you truly deserve and dive into, dive into what you desire to, to have your life look like.
You don't have to know any of the steps. All you have to do is have the desire and have it really be a passion in your heart and it'll happen.
Laura Rotter
So beautifully said. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time for this conversation, Angela. I really enjoyed it.
I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Angela Wilson, Chief Unlimited Officer of Angela Unlimited. And I'm going to share some of my takeaways. Number one, know that all your life experiences, good and bad, contribute to where you are today. Angela shared that when her relationship with her first husband ended, she was so insecure financially that she was not even sure if she could afford a latte.
Though it was a very difficult time for her, she does not regret having lived through it, as well as other tough periods, because they have brought her to where she is today. My second takeaway, learn how to ask for help. Angela wasn't used to asking for help from others, yet she was able to make it through this difficult period in her life by, for the first time ever, asking for help from her friends.
And finally, Recognize that things line up the way they're supposed to line up. Angela's friend recommended that she attend a workshop. Her first reaction was that it was way too expensive for her to attend. But when Angela realized that it was taking place the following week, at a location 20 minutes from her home and that the next one was a year away in a far away location.
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