A conversation with Dorice Horenstein, an international keynote speaker, Positive Intelligence Expert and best selling author. Dorice helps leaders and teams transform stress into strength, setbacks into opportunities, and leadership into a force for resilience and productivity.
Join us for an inspiring story filled with expert insight as resilience speaker and positive intelligence expert Dorice Horenstein returns to the podcast! Dorice shares her journey from a 30-year career in education to becoming a bestselling author, top thought leader, and entrepreneur embracing freedom and flexibility. This episode is a must-listen for women seeking to make empowered choices, build resilience, and cultivate joy in their lives.
Dorice provides a sneak peek into her upcoming book, "CHOOSE: A Six-Step Playbook to Becoming Your Best Self," offering a practical roadmap for navigating life's challenges and making choices that lead to greater fulfillment. She unpacks the CHOOSE acronym, which stands for Clarity, Honoring your feelings, Openness to options, Oneness with yourself, Strategize your success, and Enactment. Each step is designed to empower listeners to become champions in their own lives.
Reflecting on her own experience of leaving a secure career to pursue her passion, Dorice emphasizes the importance of intentional decision-making and the power of having a supportive community. She also discusses the interplay between internal, spiritual work and the practical steps of strategizing and enacting your vision. This episode is rich with actionable advice and inspiring anecdotes for women who are ready to step into their power and create lives they love.
Key Takeaways:
💡 The CHOOSE Method: Learn a six-step playbook for making empowered choices in all areas of your life.
💡 From Educator to Entrepreneur: Hear how Dorice transitioned from a secure career to the freedom and flexibility of entrepreneurship.
💡 The Power of Choice: Discover how even small choices can have a significant impact on your overall well-being.
💡 Building Resilience: Gain practical strategies for navigating challenges and bouncing back from setbacks.
💡 Cultivating Joy: Dorice shares her insights on finding joy in the everyday moments and living a life aligned with your purpose.
🎧 Listen now and embark on your own journey of transformation!
Dorice Horenstein, the Oy to Joy Champion Catalyst, is an international resilience speaker and Positive Intelligence expert who turns theory into action! A best-selling author and Top 25 Global Thought Leader in Coaching (Thinkers360), Dorice empowers individuals and teams to build resilience, clarity, and joy. With 30 years in education and leadership, she has trained organizations like Bonneville Power Administration, CREW, and Standard Insurance. Her dynamic talks at MDRT Dubai, HR Cruise, and BPAA leave lasting impact. Her upcoming book, Choosing to Be a Life Champion, offers a six-step roadmap to thriving in life and work.
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Dorice Horenstein
When people apply all of the methods that I used and, and talk about it and create book clubs and everything else, they will become better in their working relationship, in their loving relationships, in their family relationships, and therefore be a better, happier, joyful human, you know, and in times like today, I think that's a good thing.
Narrator
Welcome to making change with your money. A podcast that highlights the stories and strategies of women who experienced a big life transition and overcame challenges as they redefined financial success for themselves. Now, here's your host, Certified Financial Planner, Laura Roder.
Laura Rotter
I am so excited to have as my guest today, Doris Horenstein, the Oi2Joy Champion Catalyst.
Daurice is an international resilience speaker and positive intelligence expert who turns theory into action. And Daurice is my son's mother in law. She's a best selling author and top 25 global thought leader in coaching. Daurice empowers individuals and teams to build resilience, clarity, and joy. With 30 years in education and leadership, she has trained organizations like Bonneville Power Administration crew and Standard Insurance.
Her dynamic talks leave lasting impact, and she has an upcoming book, which will offer a six step roadmap to thriving in life and work. So welcome, Doris, to the Making Change With Your Money podcast.
Dorice HorensteinThank you so much for having me. And I must say, you are the best mother in law that my son could have. So I think he is been this, he just loves your family, loves the Rotter family.
So I have to start by saying that, you know, because that's, that's a dream of every mother, right? That her son is in the beautiful with another family that is so beautiful. So thank you.
Laura Rotter
Thank you, Doris. And, uh, we love your son, Martin. He's such a wonderful addition to our family. So, unbelievably, um, Doris was on this podcast before.
Um, I'm saying unbelievably because it was July 2023. It doesn't feel like that long ago. So I'm sure a lot has changed since then, Doris. So can you please Fill me and our listeners in with, um, what you've been doing.
Dorice Horenstein
Wow. You know, on one hand, you write, it seems like a long time ago. On the other hand, it feels like it was just yesterday.
And the just yesterday piece, it was like, I am still, of course, at I'm a trainer and a presenter and a coach and a speaker and the, and then the debt is growing and I'm enjoying the benefits and the rewards that I get spiritually as well as financially. And I think that is so wonderful is to know that you're serving other people and that you're helping them overcome challenges and look at opportunities of growth and find joy in their own life.
And in that you feel that I feel that I work my magic and live up to my own purpose. So that's to me is like a gift. And, uh, and I still say every morning. Every morning, I said, did I tell you, I always tell my husband, did I tell you I love my life? That is my line that I say still. So this has not changed.
What did change a little bit is that I have another book now that is in its absolute last phases to become published. In, um, in, it will be prelaunched in May, May 22nd. And it will be. In Amazon and in bookshelves, uh, all over the country on October 14th. So I have that date and that's really excites me.
And the reason I, I wrote a second book, because you know what, when I wrote the first book, after it was done.
Laura Rotter
Yeah, Sorry to interrupt. What the first book was about. I'm sure we talked about it last time, but not everyone has heard that episode.
Dorice Horenstein
Of course. Of course. So my first book was Moments of the Heart, uh, four relationships everyone should have to live wholeheartedly.
And the reason I wrote that book was because my sister was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer at the age of 38, and she was living in Israel. I am in the United States. What can I do? It started as videos that I posted every Saturday night on 20. Was it 2015 and, and then that became really the impetus of my book.
And so that came out in 2020 and you know what happened in 2020 was insane, insane year, but also incredible at the same time, you know, like, Oh my God, how all of these things are coming together. And, and that was really the reason. That I decided to leave my job in the education field. So I was in the education for 30 years, 16 years.
I was leading a school and I decided, okay, in order for this book to really. And I needed to promote it. I needed to talk about it. I needed to go places and I couldn't do it while working full time in the education sector. So I left that and I became an entrepreneur and that was a scary and we talked about it in the last, that was kind of a scary stepping into the unknown, jumping into the ocean, not knowing anything of how to go about being an entrepreneur.
And, and that was the first podcast that we did. Recorded together. And then since then I am still swimming in the ocean. I have I have I have for some floaters with me.
Laura Rotter
I'm imagining you right with the floaters on your arm
Dorice Horenstein
And the floaters are in the shape of humans that are just there. And help me and, and help me bring my vision into reality.
I have two people that work for me now. And so it's, um, it's, it's growing and it's beautiful. And during the pandemic year. Because we were home and as a speaker, you know, there was no speaking. So I had a lot of time to think and become a positive intelligence coach. That year was the year I became a positive intelligence coach and I was number, I am number 45 in the world.
Uh, certified coach with Shirza Chamin, and that brought my way opportunities to give talks, such as train your brain, um, uh, the three mindset shifts to creating the champion leader and things like that. And, and that brought me to several companies like Netflix and HP, where, where positive intelligence reached out to me to give those presentation to these companies, which was lovely.
And at the same time, as all of this is happening, and I was observing my friends and my colleagues and sometimes even myself, having a hard time making the right choice and in different places, like in my emotions, how do I choose my emotions better? How do I choose? Um, how to go through this life and, and I always love thought leadership.
I always, you know, in my previous job in the education, I write essays and, you know, and talk about sermons with different issues. So then I thought to myself, let me start writing about the choices that we make. And some choices are simple choices, what I call, you know, what to eat for dinner. Where should I go on a vacation?
You know, but then there's other choices. Should I have children? Should I not? Should I get married? Should I not? Should I come out of the closet? Should I not? Should I, um, should I leave my home country? Should I not? I mean, all of these things that were starting to percolate in my own brain. Should I forgive others?
Or should I not? Should I hold on to that? I'm not forgiving people. Should I forgive myself? So all of these things were happening to me and to people around me in, you know, 2021. And so I started. Um, putting them down on a paper in 2022. So it's been a long time for this book to come to life. Um, it started as a, you know, just reflection for me in my journal, and then it was a little blog.
And then I thought, okay, I need to put this all together. Um, and maybe through my experience, and then I looked back at how I chose to depart from my previous position and, and, and in general, the education field for 30 years, what are the methods that I. I chose to do something like that and at the same time not to burn bridges behind me, to leave things in a positive way, um, be proud of how I showed up and, and to love the way that I went through life.
So that's how. This idea of choosing came to my awareness and so,
Laura Rotter
So let me stop you for a moment because you said you looked back at your methods for how you made the choice to leave a secure career that you had done for many years and, and reinvent yourself in many ways. So can you sort of define for us what do you mean by methods?
Dorice Horenstein
You know, sometimes, that's a beautiful question. Sometimes I find that we all are first react without pausing to think what will serve not only us, but to the people around us. Either the people that we live with, the people that we work with, what will serve us the best. And, And I, you know, I believe just like Brené Brown is saying, I believe that most humanity are feeling machines that sometimes think and not the opposite.
Love that. You know, it's not the opposite. So then I thought, okay, our feelings, and I talk about it all the time in my presentation for mental fitness, how we are. Driven by our feelings and our feelings make our thoughts a particular way. And then, you know, it's in a loop thinking of feeling, thinking, feeling, and then it's like shoots out a behavior of some sort. Right?
Laura Rotter
Yes. And we justify our emotionally based decisions.
Dorice Horenstein
Exactly. Exactly. So I said, no, we need to find, we need to have a better system so that we could do that. I can impart on people and saying, if you go through this method, This, I call it playbook of making a choice. Any choice. And I, I, maybe you and I can play that game a a particular choice in our mind and what will be the right path.
So that's, by the way, the tagline on my book is Six Step Playbook to Becoming Your Best Self. And by doing that you choose your how to be. You have to be your own champion in your own life and and that's what's driven me. And so, so I, I thought hard about, okay, what will be a method? How can I describe that method?
And on a beautiful afternoon, it came to me, it came to me, because I was Thinking about the word choose and I kept on thinking and contemplating and being PQ, which is positive intelligence quotient on a word to just center myself. I thought, okay, choose. That's the word, choose, because, and then I thought because I'm Israeli and because I speak Hebrew, I, I thought of it also in a Hebrew way, right?
The Hebrew word for choose is bachar, you know, and there's two other words. In Hebrew, that uses the same letters in a different order, and that's a friend, and then which means a sword. So I was thinking, okay, how are these three words connected? And I thought, okay, the sword piece is like a strife. The idea is like, you know, you use a sword to divide.
It's a divisive thing. It's not like a Peaceful thing. So then I thought, Okay, I am going to then think of every choice that we make, and we are the product of our choices. If we wanted to believe it or not, I think it is absolutely the truth. It doesn't mean that what happened to us is You know, okay, it is okay if something bad happened to us, but our choosing is how we choose to respond to whatever happens to us.
So, so yeah, sometimes bad things happen. I mean, I, we've seen it, we've seen it. I mean, we came out of the pandemic, I've seen it. So then I thought, okay, every choice that we make, every choosing that we do either leads us. To connectivity. And that's the friendship piece, right? BER to, to is means to connect, right?
Or it leads us to , to strive to something that doesn't align with us every single choice. And it's, and it's really interesting and the good part about it is that even if we choose sometimes something that we regret. It's not too late, we, because we have the freedom to choose again and to re choose again in our lives.
It doesn't mean that once you chose something, that's it, you're stuck forever. Except, those choices that I call eternal. You know, there are choices that are eternal choices. That once you make a choice, that's the choice you made. So, bringing children to the world. Yes. I mean, like, you can't say, Oh! Sorry.
Been there, done that. I'm doing it. Exactly. Exactly. And some choices are internal, not eternal, but internal. They're, they have to do with you and yourself and how you choose to show up in the world. Right. And so, so I, all of these thoughts have been in my mind and I thought, okay, I'm going to talk about how do, and, and, and one more caveat, sometimes choices that I will make.
That are good for my best self may not be the same choices that you or my son or my husband or my friend will make. And that is also okay, right? Because the whole idea is making the right choice for you to be, to become your best self. So, so then I thought I took the word choose because it meant so much to me.
And what I did on the basis of the Hebrew and understanding the current underneath is I took the word choose and I made it an acronym and C H O O S E is the acronym of the six step playbook. So should I go through the steps? Would you like the first step?
Laura Rotter
Sure. The first one is clarity. The C stands for clarity.
Dorice Horenstein
Sometimes we are not even clear about the choice. That is in front of us. Sometimes the choice in front of us is not even our choice to make. And we think like we need to jump in into something else. So it's that clarity about the choice and clarity about the information around it. So understanding where you are, what sabotages you.
So in that. In that, in that section of the book, which we call steps, I describe, um, because it's a mixture of positive intelligence and me. Yes, I hear that. Yeah. So, so, so it will be, you know, what are the different saboteurs that one can go in? Okay. Uh, and how is it important for us to be understanding our strength and then also understanding how when we use and abuse our strength, it can become actually our weakness.
Laura Rotter
I want to ask one question of what comes up when you say this, Therese, because I, I, and I guess I'm relating to my own way of making choices that I feel like I can be sabotaged if I feel like this is, I'm going to use your language, an eternal choice. As an example, we're way past this, but you know, watching young people make decisions about university.
Or frankly, my synagogue is interviewing and will be hiring a new rabbi. We had our, and if there's this feeling that like this choice. is black and white, and if it doesn't work out, I'm screwed. That makes it so much more serious that I know for me, I will say, like, to someone, you know, choose a college. If you don't like it after your freshman year, you transfer.
Make a job offer to a rabbi. It doesn't work for the congregation. Yes, we'll be signing a contract, but it won't be for 30 years. You move on. Exactly. And this is
Dorice Horenstein
No, you, you, you just nailed it. This is not choosing a rabbi or choosing a university is not an eternal choice. There are very few eternal choices that we make in life.
And that's why I brought children. Children is eternal choice, even so. So those are important to know that once you're in, you're in, you know, once my daughter decided to have two children. She's in, you know, she can't, we can't take back, there is no going back, right? And so that is in one category, but there's very few things in life that are eternal.
Most of the things in life are internal. And some of these pieces, some of it is external, like the food that we're eating, you know, what should we go for dinner, small things. This book of mine is dealing with the internal choices. Most of it. Why? Because by doing the internal work, you become the champion of your own best self.
And I do believe with all my heart that each and every person in this world in this universe can be a champion in their own life and and and become their best self. And in the very end of my book, I actually talk about that. Light that everybody can bring and that light is the light of love and the light of goodness and the light of how you celebrate the world and continue working with the world to make the world a better place for everybody to live in and Coming not from a place of hatred But from a place of love and I that is the very last page in my book And so so I do believe that we can all have it if you come With that mindset, with that mindset, so, so yeah, and this part is the clarity part is really important is like, yeah, I don't, I think that there's a lot of choices to be made with choosing a rabbi.
Let me tell you, and, and it could change and some rabbis are there for 30 years and some rabbis are there for five years. Yes, because it's not a good match for anybody and and being an education director for 30 16 years I do know that and he's leaving this July July 1st. So oh, so you'll be the same Actually, no, they had in our synagogue.
They had the educational rabbi becoming the senior rabbi Uh, effective July 1st and then they are, I'm sure they're going to hire somebody else to be the education rabbi, you know, so the life, the life that I, I kind of, you know, step away from and just doing this and just watching and looking and supporting, supporting when I can, exactly.
Laura Rotter
So what does the H stand for?
Dorice Horenstein
The H stands for honoring your feelings, honoring your feelings. I think sometimes we try to shove it down the feeling like. We don't like the choice, but we bottle it in and we feel this knot in our stomach. Uh, and we know that something is just not right and we, we ignore it.
Or we, we don't think that this is important. And the more we are not in touch with our feelings, the louder that sound in our head become. And so, so that to me is, is incredibly important to honor the feelings that we have. It doesn't mean that we stay there. See, that's, it's like, whatever feelings you have, how can you then Move from it.
How can you look at it like in a, uh, you, you feel it and then yet you step back up and say, What am I looking here? What? What is beneath the feelings? What is beneath those feelings? And I think that's really important when we make a decision. So we don't make it fully on because of our feelings. Uh, I know.
So how do you make it just like it?
Laura Rotter
Yeah, how do you balance?
Dorice Horenstein
So then, then, yeah, so then you go to the third set. Okay, go ahead.
Laura Rotter
Look, I was also gonna say how do, how do we, you know, I know you, we, we are similar emotionally. I, I do meditate and so I can hear and sense my internal voice, but not everyone can.
So a, you know, how do you even know what's your internal voice and what's the voice of your mother or your culture or something? And then secondarily, how do you then work with it?
Dorice Horenstein
You were in that section, there is a part where I put that to be to learn to get to the authenticity of you. He's like, that is the section when you, and there, and I give exercise, the nice part about this book that didn't happen with my first book, there is a, a companion resource that I created, which is like 70 other pages where people actually write their feelings.
There's questions and then there is places to feel it's a fillable either online or you can print it and make it your own workbook and, and the QR code is in the book itself. So it's. It's complimentary. It's just a resource that I think nice to have and it's about number one being empathetic to your feelings, you know, in other words, don't, don't put it aside.
And it doesn't mean somebody asked me, says, there is, does that mean that we can become narcissist? You know, if we do that, like, you know, always like feeling all, you know, we love ourselves like, no, no, no, no, no. There's a big, huge difference between having immense empathy and love for yourself than being narcissistic.
Okay, so, so know that know that level and also then dig deep down about being your original self, not the one that has all the shells or the pills or the layers of the onions on you because of life that made you this way, but in your very core, in your very core, where is it? And it is a hard job. It is, you know, it is very, and it's a lifelong job.
Laura Rotter
Exactly. I was going to say it takes a lot of practice. And what I'm also hearing is this idea, it's almost like the internal family systems of all these different voices inside you. And for me, inner child work, which is you're not letting the inner child drive the car, right? Like, it's not like here's the steering wheel, but we're not banishing the inner child.
Either we're saying, hi, sweetheart. I hear you. You're scared. This is a scary thing. I get it. I'll take you. Don't worry. Yes.
Dorice Horenstein
And imagine when, if all of us adults will give that love to ourselves, what can happen to this world and also how do the children around us? You know, I think that, you know, it's also shows vulnerability to our own family.
That we're not that perfect and we are learning. And sometimes, you know, I have to work on it myself for me with my relationship, with the people that I love. Children, husband, friends, whatever, is, is, because I'm not perfect, far from it, far from it, you know, but I still do love myself, even if I'm not perfect.
I do. And if I don't, I play some music, I dance around, and I'm back into loving myself.
Laura Rotter
So, Dorice, we, you were saying how, so then how do you work with? Those voices that tells you that you're not good enough, or I guess you were saying for you have exercises for helping us really distinguish what, you know, giving us the clarity and then.
And then we have that clarity, then how and then.
Dorice Horenstein
So let's move to the next step is that the next? The first? Oh, is openness to options. And I think that's really important because sometimes we put ourselves in a box, not even understanding that. Yeah. I mean, we're right now given this one choice, but it could be that we can modify one choice and make it something else.
So being curious is huge. Yeah. It's not some things are black and white, but many things are not. And so how do you then see what are all the different shades that really are happening here? Um, should I go visit my daughter during the pandemic? Should I not? I mean, okay, if I go, what are the times that I could go?
How could I make it happen? Can I go before she had the baby? I mean, all of these questions that I asked myself. So it will be A choice that I could be happy to live with, right? Happy to live with, not choice that I'm like, Yeah, I have no choice. It was given to me by whatever and I have to do it. Be behind it.
And then the second O is oneness. Oneness with yourself. I call it the shlemut. And it's the center of this word, choose. And I think it is so important to feel wholesome. And in Hebrew. Um, you know, means wholesome and and being feeling as a whole so you're not split in your heart. Um, I'll give you even the name of the book that right this book does not yet at this moment in time.
We're playing we're tweaking. How will the name of the book be? That's a big, huge choice to make. You know, names of the books are super important. And I and the publisher. I suggested some things just earlier this week, and at first I said yes, and then when I hung up the phone and I wrote it down, something in my system didn't feel right about it.
So I've been, so I have another meeting with them, and meantime, I'm doing my work, like, okay, what do I feel about this? Why is this not right? How, and it's a, it could be a tweak between choosing and choose. That's it. But it's important. So being aware and conscientious of where you are with your body is like, Hmm, I feel split on that.
It's not 100 percent right, you know, and, and most of the time, if we listen to that voice, we are striving more. To being in completion with our own self rather than split. So I think that part of being oneness is, I think it's really important. And it's so interesting that it's just literally in the middle of that name.
And then S, is strategize your success. That, to me, means how are we going to plan it out? So the example that I give in the book where I take them through this is me leaving my job, uh, after 16 years and what was going on in every step in there. And by the way, sometimes those steps are done simultaneously.
It's not like you have to go from one to the next. Sometimes it's all like happening and you like. You put them in the right buckets, you know, it's like, okay, this is how I'm feeling. This is this, but the strategizing is for me was who else needs to know about this? Who else needs to know about what's going on in my head?
Who do I need on that train with me that I'm leaving? And in our last podcast, we talked about that. I needed Bob to be on board. Otherwise. That well, there's going to be consequences to either way, you know, so it's like what needs to happen and who else needs to be on that train with me and. Is anybody in the synagogue needed to be there so I can get the severance that I was planning to want, you know, to get?
Who needs to be in the know? How do I strategize this thing so it will be successful? Uh, and, and in that section is you also realize that you need other people, you know, even introverts need people around them. Yes. It's not only extroverts need people around them like me, right? We all need people around us.
And I think that part is strategizing how am I going to make this choice and how is it going to affect other people around me? Because my choice definitely affected our family. You know, um, the older Yaniv was here, Bob was here. You know, how are we going to be in this together? And then the last piece, which is the E, is for enactment.
It's getting the choice done. Taking the first step. Understanding maybe there's a timeline that we need to do. At first, I wanted to call it, you know, activate, like to take action. Um, Uh, or, but I needed an E. I was thinking an E. And then there was, and then there was execution and I'm like, I'm not using the word execution here.
So then the word enactment came. So that's, that's the book. And um,
Laura Rotter
So I've got a question for you about the interplay of sort of the more internal spiritual work and then the two last letters, the strategize and enactment. Um, I'm going to share that I try to come up with a mantra for each year and this year my mantra is opening to receive ease and synchronicities.
And so. It is very much backing away from what comes naturally to me, which is, I guess, strategize and enact, right? Like, here's my to do list, and here's where it's scheduled in my calendar, and this is who I'm reaching out to, and this is what I'm doing next. And, um, and that has certainly served me in my life, and, and I think there's a different way.
So I'm curious your thoughts about the interplay of the two. Yeah. Well,
Dorice Horenstein
You can use yours as a strategy. This could be your strategy, you know, and you're going to go in with the ease and flow into this. And I also know that where we focus our attention, the influence and what we want to achieve becomes a reality.
And in order for that to become a reality, we need to take actions. I've not seen one person sitting on the sofa reading a book and become and it doesn't matter what book it could be amazing book and their life, their own life changed drastically just by sitting on the sofa and reading a book. I've seen them doing things to make that happen.
And I am. a doer. And I come from that place. I come from that place. If you want to see something happen, create that. And so what does that mean to create that? It doesn't mean that you by yourself single handedly will go and charge forward and no, you can have group with you. Bring that to reality. And, and, and to me, to me, bring it something to reality means that you need to be intentional about how you're going to bring that to reality.
So you can use your mindset approach and your word of the year, which is more than one word, by the way. Yes. It's my mantra of the year. It's your mantra. That's right. It's your mantra. It's becoming, that could be your strategy. And you will be surprised when that's your strategy. You actually have steps.
Laura Rotter
To make that happen for you. I think actually you're reminding me Doris that that is the case not only Though i've mostly ignored it today, but I do have a little buzz going off on my wrist every two hours Reminding me to sit and take a breath for a minute Um, and I say yes to events and activities where I will meet new people So that's a strategy.
That is a strategy
Dorice Horenstein
Absolutely. Yeah, and and You follow up on it. You, you subscribe to events, you go to events, but then at the event, what do you do? You don't probably sit without talking to anybody. You're talking and you're schmoozing with people. Why? Why? Ask yourself why?
Laura Rotter
Well, I guess it does sort of, um, tie to what you said under strategize, which is, I just think, I can help people whether inviting them to be yes on my podcast or answering their questions about finances or just creating a space for listening because as an introvert, I'm a good listener.
Dorice Horenstein
Yes, you are, that that's a gift to people. So, um, that's actually your superpower, Laura. That is because I think people I do think that and, and, and, and you are much better than me. Listening is. often more important than speaking. And, you know, so I think you're doing a fantastic job at that. And as you're listening, you're processing, you're processing what I'm saying.
And you make me think by having thoughtful questions. About what will I respond so that I love that.
Laura Rotter
So what do you want our listeners to know about when your book will be out? About how they can support you in this journey so you can support them. Thank you.
Dorice Horenstein
Thank you. So, first of all, I want to gift your, your listeners.
Anybody that listened here. There is, I created this beautiful cards that you can, whoop. Can you hear me? I just I can. Yeah. So anyway, these are the different steps that a person goes through. And did I put it up? Yeah. So anyway, you are welcome to these cards. That is absolutely my gift to everybody who's listening.
That's number one. Number two. If you would like to be, uh, an ambassador, I will put in a link and the ambassador means that, uh, if you pre order my book, uh, you will get a free ebook from me when I have the codes. And when you are submitting it, I'm working right now with the publishing company to provide me those things.
And you will be invited to an exclusive. Um, webinar together with me once the book is out and you have the book and it will be hundreds of people together with us celebrating and doing activities with the book. That's number two. And number three, when it's out, I would love for you to put it on your social media and tag me.
So that's the ambassador. So you get, um, the free ebook, the free card game that I have right here. And, and you are in my orbit of influence and. We can meet each other, and how cool is that?
Laura Rotter
Thank you. And what's the time frame? I think you mentioned it earlier, but just yeah, the book
Dorice Horenstein
In Amazon and on brick and mortar will be available October 14th.
Laura Rotter
Oh, October 14th.
Doris Horenstein
Yes, but my pre launch is May 22nd. And in April and May, I will need the ambassadors To, um, to be on board because that will be like amazing, amazing period of time. And then I'll do a physical pre launch at where I live in Portland, Oregon, and it will be streamed on Facebook to everybody.
And so it'll be really fun. So yeah, so the more people know, the more people celebrate, the better people make choices, you know, hey, a win win.
Laura Rotter
I love that. So Doris, before, before we get off, um, you are a woman of great passion and also vision. Do you have a sense of, you know, what's coming up for you in the next two years?
Oh my God.
Dorice Horenstein
Oh my God. First of all, I know. First of all, I always start with, with the prayer, right? Made the next two years, I will be healthy. In body and spirit and and be surrounded with the people that I love and that, uh, my family and my friends and my extended family. That's my first thing that I like the moment of gratitude here because we have to do that first.
And I'm in a man. Yes. Two years we can do another recording. It seems like we're keeping on track.
And, um, but for my, for my business, I am, I'm, I'm anticipating that this book will be purchased by event planners and company, uh, um, summits and conferences that want to give this to every single one of their employees, because I do believe that it will be it. When people apply all of the methods that I used and, and talk about it and create book clubs and everything else, they will become better in their working relationship, in their loving relationships, in their family relationships, and therefore be a better, happier, joyful human.
Um, you know, and in times like today, I think that's a good thing, right? So can we? Yeah. And I, and I think I'm, I'm in this place where I'm bridging a lot of people. When I talk to a lot of people, some people I agree politically with some people I don't, but we all agree that we can become a champion in our own lives and wow, that's, that's a win to me.
That's a win to me.
Laura Rotter
I love it. Beautiful, beautiful way to end our conversation, Doris. Thank you so much for being my guest. Thank you. Thank you.
Narrator
Thanks for listening to Making Change With Your Money. Certified financial planner, Laura Rotter, specializes in helping people just like you organize, clarify, and invest their money in order to support a life of purpose and meaning.
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