A conversation with life coach and Jungian psychology expert Shadi Sadeghi. In this podcaxst episode, she shares her journey of breaking free from cultural conditioning to create a life of purpose and fulfillment.
Are you feeling trapped by expectations and struggling to create a life that truly reflects who you are? Join us as life coach and Jungian psychology expert, Shadi Sadeghi, shares her inspiring story of breaking free from cultural conditioning to build a thriving business and a life of purpose.
Shadi, the daughter of Iranian immigrants, candidly discusses the challenges she faced growing up with a deep-seated pressure to achieve academic and professional success in traditional fields. She reveals how she navigated the maze of career choices, from medicine to law to international business, before finally discovering her true calling by tuning into her inner voice and embracing the unknown. Listen in and thrive as Shadi shares her expert story and expert insights.
After years of searching for her soulmate and feeling the societal pressures of "finding the one," Shadi stumbled upon the world of Jungian psychology and the power of the unconscious mind. This discovery sparked a profound shift, leading her to become a certified life coach and emotion code practitioner. She now empowers women to release limiting beliefs, overcome obstacles, and manifest lives filled with authentic relationships and fulfilling careers.
Shadi's bold decision to quit her corporate job and embark on a 10-month solo trip across 10 countries is a testament to her commitment to living a life of freedom and flexibility. She shares how she funded this transformative experience and the invaluable lessons she learned about herself and the world along the way. This episode is packed with practical advice and inspiring anecdotes for women who crave more freedom and flexibility in their lives.
Key Takeaways:
Overcoming Cultural Conditioning: Hear how Shadi navigated the pressures of immigrant family expectations and forged her own path.
The Power of the Unconscious Mind: Discover how understanding the unconscious mind can unlock your potential and help you manifest your desires.
Embracing the Unknown: Learn how to let go of the need for control and embrace the uncertainty of life's journey, just like Shadi's solo trip.
Finding Your True Calling: Shadi's story inspires listeners to trust their intuition and pursue work that aligns with their values and passions.
Freedom and Flexibility: Learn how Shadi created a life of freedom and flexibility by taking risks, prioritizing her well-being, and designing her own unique path.
Shadi Sadeghi, certified life coach and emotion code practitioner, guides women all over the world to overcome obstacles and create lives of authenticity and fulfillment. Her mission? To help women break free from conditioning and step into their power.
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Shadi Sadeghi
A lot of People don't realize that you need to face your fear of never getting the thing that you want. If it's money goals, if it's a certain position, if it's the love of your life, and that's not easy because we're taught to avoid any uncomfortable feelings. So. Uh, also making peace with actually getting what you want, because as you're taking action in life, a lot of people are like terrified of actually becoming successful or achieving what they want.
And so they kind of dig their heels in unconsciously and they self sabotage, which is, I hate that term because it has such a negative connotation. It's just a form of protection. It's just a defense mechanism.
Narrator
Welcome to making change with your money. A podcast that highlights the stories and strategies of women who experienced a big life transition and overcame challenges as they redefined financial success for themselves.
Now here's your host, Certified Financial Planner, Laura Rotter.
Laura Rotter
I am so excited to have as my guest today, Shadi Sadeghi. Shadi is a Certified Life Coach in Jungian Psychology and an Emotion Code Practitioner with over 15 years of personal development experience. Shadi's method combines depth psychology, Eastern philosophy, social neuroscience, and emotional energy work to transformative process of freeing their past traumas and conditioning and awakening to their true selves.
Through this mind, body, soul journey of powerful conscious action, coupled with the infinite intelligence of the unconscious mind, she guides men and women all over the world to overcome obstacles with ease, to manifest more authentic and fulfilling relationships and careers. So welcome Shadi to the Making Change With Your Money podcast.
Shadi Sadeghi
Thank you. Thanks for having me, Laura.
Laura Rotter
I'm looking forward to learning more about your work. This is a great introduction and bio. I'm going to start as I always do with these podcasts with, um, the question, what was money like in your family growing up, Shadi?
Shadi Sadeghi
Oh, airing out our dirty laundry, aren't we?
Okay. So money in my family, um, I'm a daughter of immigrants. So, um, the experience that I had and the stories that I heard, uh, was that life in Iran. Uh, where my family was from, uh, was quite comfortable. My father worked for the national oil company and you were, it was like a fraternity of sorts. So you, your home was all, you know, was supplied for you in an extravagant home and many luxuries.
Were offered to people that were part of the oil company. He was an engineer there and Um, they you know, my brother and sister who grew up there. They each had a nanny They each had a driver and it was a very different experience. However, you know, my parents Left everything the revolution happened and, um, the government changed and they they essentially fled and they left.
Um, they came to the states and it was during an embargo. Uh, so you could not bring anything. You could not bring your wealth. You could not bring anything during the hostage crisis. Um. And so I was born here and I was born in the States rather. And I had a very different experience and understanding of money than my brother and sister and that my parents did.
Um, as you know, the story is when you're a child of immigrants, you're in survival mode. So, um, You do your best, but you're kind of you're in a foreign country. You don't know the language. You know, I can't even imagine, you know, everything that my family went through just to get back on their feet. And it took some time and to be a child growing up with that, you know, and now I have the understanding.
I mean, hindsight is 2020. I have the understanding of the unconscious mind. Your beliefs about money really are formed, uh, between zero and eight around eight, seven or nine. And we inherit. A lot of it as well. So even if we learn from our, you know, our parents, um, we also inherit a lot of their own beliefs, even if it's not overtly taught to us.
So they might consciously say one thing, right? But Children, as you know, they're sponges, so they absorb the energy of what they're saying, um, which is, you know, fearful. And so there was a lot of fear around money. Um, And there's still, you know, there's still, I'm still working on that conditioning to this day, to be honest.
Laura Rotter
I love your self awareness, Shadi, which is not surprising given the work that you do. Um, and it's so true. That our parents often don't communicate verbally about money, but they certainly communicate in other ways about their attitudes, and as you said, fears, perhaps aspirations. around money. So when did your parents arrive?
What year around? What year was that?
Shadi Sadeghi
It was actually my mother and sister arrived in the fall of 79. My father was not permitted. Was not given a visa. So he stayed back. So I didn't actually meet him until three. And then, uh huh. And then my brother was already in university here in the States. And so, uh, we became kind of a micro family, um, around that time.
And I was born in 80. So I was born in the spring of 80.
Laura Rotter
Thank you. And so just give us a sense of what it was like growing up. Was there a, um, was education stressed in your family? What? Yes.
Shadi Sadeghi
You know, so understandably, my family. My family all had, they have, every member in my family has had higher degrees.
So education was, and in our culture, especially, you know, I don't know if you know many Iranians or Iranian Americans, but education is very, very much valued, um, and taught, uh, expressed to their kids, you know, strive for education because no matter what happens, no matter the economy, you can rely on that, you know?
And so that was the messaging that I also, I received. And, um, I being the child born in the United States and being the youngest, the baby in the family and my own person, you know, not even my personality, really, my soul's expression is very much an artist, creative, a rebel, um. And not good at school, there was a direct conflict to be, you know, as a nonconformist.
That's really what I don't want to be put in boxes. I don't want to sit still. I don't want to be in school. I don't, don't like grades. I don't like being assessed for my performance. I don't, you know, so it was, it was tough. And that was my journey. Um, really, that was my journey, uh, to. Really decide what, what works for me and what to be free of that.
Uh, you know, that was part of my conditioning, my cultural and familial conditioning. And, um, I think that it's really, it's not even about, um, the topic of education or the topic of money. It's about finding what resonates for you and you can be free from the conditioning to make a choice. And to decide and you know, the irony is now that I'm like older now, I'm like, oh, there's certain subjects that I, I would want to study like I actually want to go into school.
I want to go it. You know what I mean? So now I actually have because I'm free from that. Pressure of education, you know, needing to, to be valued or worthy or to succeed, you know, when, when you release that conditioning, when you free yourself of it and accept yourself as you are, then you have a choice like, Oh, you know what, actually, it'd be kind of cool to just sign up for an online class at Harvard in like energy psychology, which apparently they offer, you know, things like that.
So, um, I'm not so afraid of, of that concept of education, but yes. It was a huge proponent and I was the oddball really in my family because everyone was like PhDs and super smart and Master's degrees and I had trouble in that area
Laura Rotter
What must have been hard because I don't specifically know Iranian immigrants but immigrant families in general so much stress the stability that comes from being An achiever and, um, both in education and then in traditional professional, um, you know, doctor, lawyer, Indian chief, those are the only options for the only options you're given because that's what they know.
Shadi Sadeghi
That's what they know that works and is easy. It's an easy path to having a stable, secure. Future. So it's understandable. And that's their conditioning. You know, we are also raised by people that only do and know as as well as they do and know. So, um, I think that's completely normal. And I think that one layer of conditioning, uh, was definitely the immigrant mentality of, um, after all this sacrifice, you know, there's sort of this expectation that Your kids really make, make life easy for you, for themselves.
Why would you want to make life harder for yourself after everything, you know, we, we came here for the American dream, but you're opting out of the American dream, which is ironic because to me, the American dream is freedom. So that means freedom of choice, right? Um, not just. Uh, and entrepreneurship. I think, you know, it's, it's an amazing place to be enterprising.
It's, you don't even need to be a citizen to register for an LLC, but, but, you know, we're not, but that's risky. Right. And so when, when an immigrant has immigrated, they, they're risk averse. They're like, no, no, no. I need my kids to be safe. I need them to have a secure and stable future. And looking around, you know, what doctors do really well.
Engineers do really well. Dentists do really well. Lawyers do really well. That's your path.
Laura Rotter
So what was your path and how you negotiate that with, with your family?
Shadi Sadeghi
My path was like a maze. It was like, it was, it was all over. God bless them. God bless them for their patience. Um, to this day, even because I've been only recently on an, uh, entrepreneurship journey.
Um, and I think, and plus on top of that, you know, this woo woo stuff that I do and working with the mom, that challenge is there, you know, their beliefs so much. So God bless their patience, um, and support really for me, uh, to pursue this path. But I. Because those were the only options presented to me, I was like, okay, I want to be a doctor.
Nope. Okay. I want to be alert. Nope. You know, I went down and I kind of learned by trial and error. Um, and, and I did, and I was like, nope. And I had, you know, I was like, okay, well, what do I like? Okay. I really like traveling. So let me find something where I can do international work. So then I got into international business.
And it was for a very prestigious organization, the second largest employer in Washington, D. C. A children's hospital, a place with a mission. And so that's like, that made it more digestible. You know what I mean? Like, okay, this is, this is going to be my career. This is what I'm going to do. And. Nope, that wasn't it either.
That's life, you know, and I think that that's, that's life. And I think one of the biggest lies were sold is that number one, you're supposed to know, uh, what your profession is. Um, at age 17, 18, you're supposed to know what you want to be for the rest of your life. That's absurd because most people don't even know who they are at 17, 18, let alone at 50, right?
Um, and number two, I think it's another lie that we're sold that, uh, you're supposed to only have one career. You know, we're dynamic. We're human beings. We're dynamic. We have multiple interests. We have multiple passions. Um, And really that's, that's the whole point of life is to figure out how to express ourselves through our profession.
Laura Rotter
It's so true. I have a quote up on the wall. I have many quotes up on the wall in my closet, and one of them is that we are raised to believe life is a chessboard, like you have the strategy and you plan out the moves, but life is more like a painting that just develops over time, your, and also this idea that there's a destination, right, as opposed to the journey And it, and it's constantly shifting, and it's only when we're able to look back, and then, you know, we're meaning making machines, so we create a narrative of where we've been at, and, and what got us to, to where we are now.
And, um, and I think as a fellow human, it is hard to, to be patient, to not want to know, how does this lead to that? Where am I going? Just to be embraced.
Shadi Sadeghi
The unknown. Yeah. Embrace the unknown. And I think that like, you know, a lot of clients have come to me because they had achieved so much and they did follow that, you know, strategic map their whole lives.
And they're like, I'm not fulfilled. Like, why am I not satisfied? It's because their whole lives we've and we've been conditioned to believe There's some arrival point, there's some destination and that there's a moment that even through all that success, like they don't feel like they've arrived or for so many women.
I'm sure you understand women that hold high positions, leadership positions. They still feel like an imposter and it that's all related to this, like endless carrot chasing. Um, that's just not this experience, the human experience.
Laura Rotter
Yeah, so, so I'd love to hear how you got to be doing the work that you're doing today and, and what exactly that work is.
And I'm sure as, um, as I listened to where you've been and, and, um, and what led to where you are now, I think about how, um, I know intellectually, but are coming to learn more and more exactly what you've described, Shadi, which is like, we think when we get to a certain destination, there will be that happiness that …
Shadi Sadeghi
I made it, yay, I've made it right.
Laura Rotter
And it really has to come from within. Um, you have to be happy no matter what.
Shadi Sadeghi
Like, so you, so this is, yeah. This is also it. And, you know, the whole manifestation craze that happens, you know, with the book, The Secret coming out, that's kind of also, it's been warped by this, uh, really conditioned mentality of, of chasing the carrot.
So, like. The whole secret to manifestation really is that you need to be okay with never getting the thing you want. Meaning it's an emotional peacemaking within yourself. And, on the flip side, which so many people also have a fear of actually getting what they want. So it's both
so like, uh, that is, I know I'm diving right in and I'll come back to your question, but I felt like the need to share this because that topic hashtag manifestation, right?
It's such a hot topic right now. A lot of people don't realize that you need to face your fear of never getting the thing that you want. If it's money goals. If it's, um, a certain position, if it's the love of your life, and that's not easy because we're taught to avoid any uncomfortable feelings. So, uh, also making peace with actually getting what you want, because as you're taking action in life, a lot of people are like terrified of actually becoming successful or achieving what they want.
And so they kind of dig their heels in unconsciously and they. Self sabotage, which is, I hate that term because it has such a negative connotation. It's just a form of protection. It's just a defense mechanism or they avoid, or they feel a sense of lack of motivation or they develop an illness even, um, without realizing it.
And it's really because they're just like, Oh, it's terrifying because it requires a complete. Identity change when you become successful, so it's both. Anyway, I'm sorry, I forgot your question.
Laura Rotter
Well, where we left off, you were, um. Oh yeah, my journey. In your immigrant parents. And then, yes, the international business thing.
Shadi Sadeghi
How did I get into coaching? Um, so I, I came across. Uh, a webinar about finding your soulmate because I was in my mid thirties at that point. And to me, I, I, I, I didn't just want to get married for the sake of getting married. As you know, I, I, I was sort of a rebel and I'm, you know, non conventional, not very conventional my whole life.
And so I didn't just want to, you know, check the tick. I'm married. I moved to the suburbs two and a half. Now that story, it just felt. Um, it didn't feel mine. It just felt like something that people are telling you that you need to do. Um, and
Laura Rotter
I've gotten a lot of pressure from parents and family. If you're.
You know, not in a relationship as a woman in your mid thirties must have been uncomfortable.
Shadi Sadeghi
And I, I didn't, I didn't get pressure because I was getting, I was putting so much pressure on myself. I, Laura, I, I probably could write a novel. I've been on at least a thousand dates. Because I had been on so many dates.
I was putting myself out there. I was doing all the things to find a partner. Um. And meanwhile, you know, society doesn't help with this, you know, subliminal, the clock is ticking messaging, you know, and that adds more pressure. So my family, thank God they weren't, they, they wanted to help. They're like, maybe we can set you up.
Maybe there's some, and they, you know, they didn't put pressure on me. Cause I was already putting so much pressure on myself. So I came across this webinar from, um, my former mentors who started this, um, this university essentially, that's the only. It's the only, I believe it's the only university that is, uh, based on Jungian psychology and coaching.
So it's certified it's accredited. Um, and they talked about the unconscious mind and I was like, wait, what? And it, the unconscious mind is really what's driving everything. Your, your results, your patterns, your behaviors, your feelings, your thoughts, your actions. Um, And I was like, what is this? You know, and I had taken the few psychology courses and I had, I had learned, I had read a little bit about it, but I didn't know who Carl Jung was.
I didn't understand what depth psychology was was. I mean, Jungian psychology is played down a lot in, um, in modern, you know, in modern psychology and schools. I mean, it's it's because it's. It's incorporates a lot of spirituality, um, into his work. And so, um, so I started to get coached essentially. And at the time I didn't realize it, but, um, this path, what, and this is the path that I take my clients on is, uh, taking.
Clients through the path of individuation. So you become individuated from your conditioning. You release your conditioning. You unlearn it essentially so that you are free to consciously create the life that you desire. And the, you know, become your true self, essentially, the path of individuation is the Western approach to enlightenment.
And so it is no easy feat. So I was signing up for, you know, I was signing up for a program to find my soulmate and figure out why am I getting in my own way, but essentially it triggered and activated the path to my own awakening. Essentially, uh, and I was ready clearly. And, uh, so it's like you sign up to find your soulmate, but really you find yourself.
Laura Rotter
Um, and that was the film.
What's that? Yourself as your soulmate.
Shadi Sadeghi
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And so through that process, um, I, I began to learn about it and I became fascinated, obsessed really with how the mind works and how we create our reality and how we're, we're manifesting everything all the time. And that everything is an opportunity to understand yourself deeper and to grow.
And then you really, and then I started to understand that, wait. You're working with a lot of emotions and emotions are energy. It's so everything is energy. So then it just, it just, I evolved through the process and I, I learned about the emotion code, um, and energy work, what is energy? What does that mean?
Um, and I became. More recently certified in in that in the energy work. And so I have folded it into oh, sorry. I forgot to mention. I got certified as a coach as well. So as I was learning about the mind, I was like, I want to know how my mind works. So I became certified. Never thinking ever that I would become a coach and, um.
And I ended up getting involved in energy work recently as well. And I officially launched my business about two years ago when I came to, I think really everything just came to a halt in my life. And in terms of, I am not satisfied in my career. I don't see myself working for somebody else or in corporate world anymore.
And I think it was like, I just need a drastic change.
Laura Rotter
So I took let me just interrupt quickly. So you were All this time while you did the coaching and everything, you were still working at that job. And
Laura Rotter
I was still, I was still working in DC. Very, you know, very powerful city. It's the capital. So, um, I had a huge life.
Shadi Sadeghi
I mean, I had an amazing life, but I felt like I outgrew everything. Um, the city, I outgrew the job and I just, my heart wanted more, my soul wanted more and that's the side effect of really this process of getting to know yourself and awakening to your true self. And so, um, I, I had a vision of being on my deathbed, never having Lived in Europe and I was so sad and I was like, I literally have nothing holding me back.
I don't have a mortgage. I don't have kids. Um, and I bought a one way ticket to Italy. So I quit my job and I bought a one way ticket to Italy because I saw that's what that was the vision. I saw, um, I saw the Italian Riviera, the mountains and the, you know, Cinque Terre, like, that's what I saw. And, uh, I had no plan, and I'm, I was very type A, all about planning and doing things right, and I had, it was an open ended, uh, trip, and I was like, I'm just going to lean into this whole, you know, intuition, my intuition, and, um, see where it takes me, and I did that, I did 10 countries for 10 months.
Laura Rotter
And I just want to stop you, just financially, how did you know you had
Shadi Sadeghi
So I had savings that was meant to be for a house. Ah. So I, that's what I used. I was like, I'm going to take a chance on myself. It was a huge risk. And I took a chance and I said, I I'll find it. I'll figure it out. I'll just figure it out.
I just knew I had to do this and I'll figure it out. And I did. Um, and then I knew that ultimately I would move to California, to Southern California. I am not a four season person anymore, climate wise, uh, and my mother lives in Southern California. So I knew ultimately that would be the next chapter. So I did the whole, uh, travel abroad thing for sabbatical.
And I actually got my first coaching client while I was traveling abroad, never just by accident. Cause I didn't think I was, I was like, okay, I need to figure out what kind of business I want to have. I still didn't, I was still in denial about becoming a coach. But I, every time I would talk to people, you know, I would share my experience and what I was going through and learning about the mind and the unconscious mind.
And, you know, it creates your reality. And people were like, Oh, this is interesting. So it was totally by accident. And I got my first client abroad in Italy. And, uh, and then I was like, okay, I need to accept this responsibility now. This is what I meant to be doing. And I established my LLC. And then I, I arrived in Cali and I went full force.
Hmm.
Laura Rotter
So, I mean, I have so many questions. Um, like what is the emotion code and when energy work, I mean, I think Reiki, I mean, so much can come up. Yeah.
Shadi Sadeghi
Yes, they all resonate differently for different people. And, um, so the emotion code is a very modern modality developed by Dr. Bradley Nelson. Um, and it is, um.
It incorporates a lot of Chinese medicine, actually traditional Chinese medicine, because it's based on the belief that, um, the body has the natural capacity to heal. So it has a divine intelligence within it. However, over time, and, you know, as we inherit, um. Emotions that get trapped and lodged in the body, if we're not able to process everything throughout our lifetime, you know, if we go through physical trauma and emotional trauma, if we have an experience, we're not able to process everything.
So the mind is very efficient. The mind is like a computer. It's efficient. It says, I'm just going to put that on hold, you know, this grief, you know, from this heartbreak, I'm going to put it on hold. I'll come back to it later and we go back to life. Right. But that grief is still energy. Emotions are energy in motion.
So that grief sort of, uh, it has to go somewhere. So it gets repressed in our unconscious and it stays in our energy field. So grief, according to Chinese medicine, um. Different organs have the role of processing different emotions. Grief specifically is processed by the lungs. So if the body is not balanced already, if we're already stressed out or if we're already ill or struggling with something, then grief kind of gets lodged.
In that place in the lungs, and so over time it can turn into lung cancer. That's why so many people might say, I've never picked up a cigarette in my life. How the hell can I have lung cancer? Um, it can be inherited. Um, meaning that, uh, if a great grandmother had a traumatic experience, never fully processed her grief in that lifetime, it is stored in her DNA.
And her body. And as you know, women are born with our, our, our eggs. So it, it gets transferred. And that's called epigenetics. This is scientifically proven. This is epigenetics. But, um, I got into the emotion code. So that is the emotion code. Sorry. I can start talking. I love talking about it. So I just talk into it.
So, so essentially emotion code is the modality to, um, connect with the unconscious mind. Of the client that is experiencing a physical ailment or an issue or an addiction or struggle of some sort of pattern of some sort that they seem stuck in and through a series of questions and muscle testing. 1, a practitioner can identify what emotions or energies are trapped or imbalances are trapped in their physical body or in their energy body and release them.
So it's like releasing emotional baggage and oftentimes, um, clients feel a sense of release or relief or a sense of lightness and through that process, um, if particularly you're focusing on a specific ailment, like fibromyalgia or eczema or asthma, whatever it is through this, you know, through the sessions and multiple number of sessions when you do the release, it's like releasing the rocks from So You know, from their, their pockets so that this chi energy.
Which is the life force energy can freely flow and allow for the healing to naturally happen. The divine intelligence, which is the life force energy to become unobstructed and to freely flow and help the body, assist the body in healing that particular issue, pattern or ailment. And, um, So I had developed a lot of physical issues in the last couple of years, like out of the blue, um, and I'm only 44.
So, like, just didn't make sense. I have adrenal fatigue, you know, things like that. So I, that's how I found an emotion code practitioner, um, because ultimately it's so, it's so tied into the unconscious work that I already do. It just made sense because. We create everything. So I knew that my body was kind of signaling to me.
There's something going on here. Hello. You know, pay attention to me. So, um, so I saw an emotion code practitioner and it just blew my mind, like, how efficient, how effective, how fast, uh, how safe, how gentle it was in, um, helping me. And then I started, I read the book, there's a book called the emotion code, the body code.
I read both books and I started, you know, practicing on Guinea pig friends and family members. And then, uh, and then I was like, I signed me up. I signed up and I, I went through the training process. I got, I became certified and now I folded it into my. Talk coaching work as well. And it's like you just skyrocket with the two together with the talk coaching the depth psychology coaching plus the energy work
Laura Rotter
And what I know of Jungian psychology, um, includes a lot of archetypal work that is that part of it is.
Shadi Sadeghi
Do yes. So dream work archetypal work. I have been trained. Yes. Um, symbology is sort of symbology interpreting symbols that show up in our dreams. Um, archetypal work is essentially the second phase. Um, of this path of individuation that young developed. Um, the first phase is shadow work. So it's essentially uncovering and shadow work and archetypal work go together.
So it's essentially uncovering, um, your conditioning and your belief system that a lot of us may not even be aware of. So it's really uncovering that 1st that is through the shadow work process and the archetypal work, um. Is essentially helping you tap into and accessing certain, I guess you could say, primordial images that you may not necessarily accept within yourself.
For example, I love this example, the Marilyn Monroe. We all have a Marilyn Monroe within us, right? Archetype. And so depending on how one is raised or conditioned, they may have repressed that side of themselves. The very, you know, sexy, alluring, um, uh, desirous aspect right of themselves and, um This exists in men as well, in all of us.
So these archetypes are these, these characters. I mean, archetypal work is actually incorporated in writing. You know, if there's screenwriters in, in the entertainment industry, like filmmakers, screenwriters, um, use archetypes for character development. So if, uh, so according to Jungian psychology, The archetypal, the archetype patterns are alive and well in all of us, they are, there are archetypes within all of us, and so a lot of them we identify with consciously, um, and a lot of them, like the Marilyn Monroe, we have been conditioned that it's not okay to be that sexy, it's not okay to be rebellious and impulsive, right?
And so we have repressed it. But what happens is that that is still part of us. That energy is still active and alive, and you know, it could help us create and express ourselves, maybe. And if it is repressed, if it has been rejected or denied, then we can't access that creative power. And, uh, by releasing it, by making the unconscious conscious, it allows you to choose whether do I want to be sexy or not.
Do I want to wear the leopard print? Do I want to wear the red lipstick? Do I want to bring out the Marilyn Monroe in me? Whereas if we repress it, if we push it away, if we've been taught to, which most women have, then we tend to judge others as well, too. That's how, you know, we judge others are very, you know, Oh, she's so slutty.
You know, we shame others, you know? So. That's how you know that that archetype, uh, that pattern, uh, is very much, um, alive and well and active in you, it's just repressed. And so it still shows up, uh, through life experiences, because we're trying to push it away, but it really just wants to be free. Does that make sense?
Yes. It's a hard, it's a hard concept to, to even talk about and explain.
Laura Rotter
Um, and, and certainly there are other modalities that have picked up on it, right? I think about, um, several peak coaches I know that do positive intelligence. So, your neighbors, they, right?
Shadi Sadeghi
Internal family systems, for example, archetypal work on young, young depth psychology as well.
Laura Rotter
Yeah, there's different. Variations of it. Of course, astrology and Enneagram and so many and tarot. Tarot. I mean, so many. Tarot.
Shadi Sadeghi
There you go. The archetypes. Yes. Um,
Laura Rotter
I love archetypal work.
Shadi Sadeghi
I think it's really very, very cool. It's like I compare it to like if the unconscious mind is this infinite archive or computer computer that it is within us, then the archetypes are programs.
Yeah. So they're different patterns. It's like a code. They're different codes. Like, uh, they're characteristics that are associated with each archetype. So there's certain codes that are associated with each archetype, like the trickster, like the queen, like the mother. Mothers are nurturing. They're very loving and supportive, right?
That's the code. That code exists in us. Each of us or father, father, mother, right? Or the king queen, right? King queens are very autonomous. They're sovereign. Um, they're leaders. So those characteristics are associated with each archetype. And that's also within us, but most of us are conditioning has blocked us from accessing those archetypes.
Laura Rotter
And then finally, before I go into sort of, you know, the nuts and bolts of exactly how you work with people and who you enjoy working with, I will ask you that, but you did use the word manifest both in your bio as well as, and that's become such a loaded term, um, I have my own feelings about it, so I'm curious to hear it.
How you use that, if at all, in, in your work,
Shadi Sadeghi
I don't, I'll be honest. It's a marketing tactic because, you know, leading into the question of what kinds of clients I want to work with. So I tend to work with big dreamers. So the dreamers that know there's more to life than just punching in my time card and just doing what is expected of me.
Right. So, um, they typically tend to be drawn to manifestation principles. Um, and the truth is that we're creators. We are creating at all times. We are creating everything. You know, the home that you live in, you created that there's a certain. Thought feeling and behavior and action that led to you finding that home that you live in, um, or the place that you live in.
So we're either conscious of it or we're unconscious to it. So, you know, with the relationship patterns like my for myself that I was describing, um, I was creating those experiences. Um, and. What I love about this work, the Jungian coaching work that I do is that everything becomes training ground for you to evolve and, and understand yourself better so that you can actually manifest or create what you want that is more aligned with your soul, with your true self.
So if you're in a job that you, you know, if you have a horrible boss, for example. Your soul has created that experience because that conflict with that boss is really inviting you to look inward at what is this triggering in me because it's triggering an emotion and a thought and a belief that we have either adopted when we were very little or we inherited.
About authority or about, um, you know, leadership, for example, or how one can express themselves. So if you have a boss who is always taking the spotlight and is, you know, always speaking over you, not really letting you speak, it's because he's busy. Those characteristics are repressed, rejected, or denied within yourself.
So that experience, your soul is saying, Hey, look at that mirror that's in you, but you need to make peace with that part of you, those characteristics that you're judging so harshly in that other person that's in you, it wants to be freed. And so I take them, that's the shadow work process, essentially taking someone through, uh, integrating those aspects within themselves that were pushed away a long time ago.
And it could be leadership aspects. It could be speaking up. It could be asking for what you want, which you're seeing in this other person. And you're like, God, they're just, they're so bossy. Right. And so we're repressing that part of ourselves within. You know, within us, uh, and it's our soul is creating is manifesting that experience to integrate that aspect within us to free it, to heal it, release it and then say, oh, wow, you know what I can speak up to.
I can begin to speak up a little more. I can ask for a higher salary. I can maybe, um Tell my boss like I would like to add something to this conversation, you know, so you're reclaiming that part of yourself that we tend to project onto others.
Laura Rotter
Interesting, still conflicted about the manifestation that your soul has created it because I definitely do believe that.
We, we learn from challenges in ourselves and challenges outside ourselves, and we certainly do project things onto others that we just often dislike about ourselves to me, though, I do see. Myself as a co creator with the universe. So perhaps universe has created this experience for me to learn from as opposed to, I,
Shadi Sadeghi
I see that as one of the same, because I mean, their soul is, you know, we're all connected.
So your soul is an expression. Um, of the universe, essentially. So I see it as one of the say, so it's a lot of people, which, you know, the reason I changed my language instead of saying, you know, life is showing me this challenge or life is or the universe is throwing me this curveball because I'm, An integral aspect of this work is radical responsibility of your life.
And when you are putting the power to change your life or create something you want in the universe, we think it's outside of ourselves. Do you see what I'm saying? So that's why I've started to change that language and I'm, I'm saying it's your soul. It's the universe is you. So formula number one universe is you, equals you.
Laura Rotter
And I can agree with.
Shadi Sadeghi
I can agree that it's language. It's language. Right. Right, right. It's just it's the reason I use that language is because there's a sense of self empowerment because if it's because if we think the universe is constantly throwing us challenges and illnesses and problems and struggles, then we feel powerless.
At least I did. That's how I felt. I felt powerless because I was like. You know, particularly based on our conditioning, where a lot of us have issues around the word God or religion and we, there's, there's a trigger word. So if this is just another way of saying like, oh, my God, why does the universe hate me?
Why is the universe punishing me? You know, that's what we think. Whereas if you take the power back into your own hands and say, wow, my soul is pushing me into something here. What, where's the lesson here? What is this? It's my soul. My soul wants me to become my greatest self to expand into my true self.
So that's how I at least that's what helped me. And that's what I help my clients with.
Laura Rotter
That does help me. Um, I think. You know, there's a, there's many things in life that seem to contradict. I mean, life is a contradiction often. So, so I like how you said radical responsibility. I think one can assume that without changing the language.
And I, I see where you're coming from. Whatever works. And that part doesn't really matter. So you said, Shadi, you like to, you work with big dreamers. I could, um, would you say dreamers and seekers? Um, or do people come to you sort of knowing what you would achieve? That's what I imagine when they're dreaming.
Shadi Sadeghi
I think so too. And I think, you know, typically people who come to me have like tried everything. They've tried therapy. They've tried, uh, they've read every self help book. They've tried, um, Uh, plant medicine, they've tried, you know, and they're just like, why can I not break this cycle, this pattern? Um, and it's because there's, you know, the unconscious mind is at play, but I've also, um, what I like, I also, I want to, you know, I want to also help people that, um, Have manifested what they thought they wanted, but there's still a sense of fulfillment that's lacking, you know, like that, that we talked about that I haven't arrived, you know, I've arrived, but I haven't arrived.
I feel like I haven't arrived. So, typically, my clients, um, are either stuck in trying to attain a certain manifestation or desire or goal, um, and they keep having the same patterns over and over. Or they have really achieved all that they dreamed and set out to do, but there's this void. And that's where the spiritual aspect really comes into play.
Um, it's really helping them to connect with their soul and to align their ego, their identity, their surface identity, their personality with their soul. There's still sometimes a disconnect.
Laura Rotter
Thank you. So, if I were to come to you and say, um, I would like to work together, how, how do you work with people?
Is it packages? Is it one off? How, how do you structure the work?
Shadi Sadeghi
So, as far as my coaching goes, I have a three month and a six month program. And they're very transformative. As you can see, this work is very deep. It's a deep dive. So, um, whether it's three months or six months, they are bi weekly, one hour long sessions.
So we connect every other week. And, um, I do initially, I do an assessment and we talk about what goals they have or where they're feeling stuck in life. Um, And on top of that, so usually in my sessions, uh, we do, we do the shadow work. We uncover the unconscious aspects. They reclaim that power, that energy, um, and there is a process in which, um, they are essentially, you know, experiencing eco death.
It's not a real death of the ego. I don't know if you've heard this term, the ego death, but that's another term that's been very popular and kind of exploited. The ego is not really dying. The ego can't die. Uh, it's just that the ego thinks it's dying because, um. Because we're letting go of certain patterns and behaviors that were tied to an identity to a personality, and we're letting it go so that we can expand.
And become that and more and so the ego thinks it's dying. And so we, so I take them through that process of, um, really coping with overcoming that process. And it's, there's a lot of active imagination and visualizations and meditations involved that I take them through to engage with those parts of themselves.
Uh, their shadow aspects, uh, as well as their higher self, their future self, who is the true me, who is this true self, right? Because we don't spend as adults. We don't spend enough time really imagining what we want and who we need to be to receive what we want. So we're often just stuck in reality and thinking about what's going wrong.
Um, and these sessions, I take them through guided visualizations to actually, uh, like, imagine a timeline in which they have achieved all of their goals and their dreams. Um, we also do dream work. I do dream interpretations as well. And, um, I also include the emotion code, the energy releases. So there's also 6 sessions of that included in the package as well.
And of course. email support.
Laura Rotter
Ah, so about how many clients do you work with at once? Um, you know, um, I would say, I know, um, not for my end, because you enjoy it so much and really do.
Shadi Sadeghi
It is very rewarding. And I love seeing the breakthroughs and just this lightness in, you know, especially the progression from the first session. It's like, It's almost like this dark energy and this brooding and seriousness and their struggle is all over their face.
And then by the end of it, they're just lighter, you know, they're just happier. They're lighter, they're freer. Um, so I would, I probably, um, I don't know how many, to be honest, and it's biweekly, uh, and sometimes, you know, I have new clients come in on an off week. So, um, like anywhere up to 10 clients at one time.
But, you know, and often they extend their program, uh, or they sign up for the six month right up front. And the six month is, uh, a more robust package.
Laura Rotter
Yes, it sounds like it. So as we come to the end of our conversation, I always like to ask Shadi, how has your definition of success shifted over time, if it has?
And perhaps even financial success.
Shadi Sadeghi
Wow. Um, that's a great question. And it has shifted over time because, you know, I think for so many and myself included financial success include included a certain number. And that's great. And that's a wonderful goal to have. But, um, Success is honestly is in the journey to get there because oftentimes nobody even leaves the couch or you know what I mean?
So for me, success has been the journey of even trying, just trying and doing things that. Are kind of looked at as weird or out there or doing things that are hard, like, you know, being an entrepreneur is hard being your own business person when you worked for somebody else since age 15. It's hard. Um, and knowing myself when you are your true self.
When you're living life as your true self, you're already successful. That's hard for me to say. It's hard for me to say and admit it, but it's true.
Laura Rotter
Yes. I would say, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm older than you and it's taken me this long to get to a point where I really do feel like I am myself and, um. Though, and continuing on the journey, um, of figuring out what, what my mission is here on this earth and what I'm here to do.
And it's, but in such a different place than when I was working for other people. That's it. Yeah. So, is there anything you want to make sure you say to our listeners that you haven't said yet? Any resources you, you offer?
Shadi Sadeghi
Sure. So, um, my Instagram page is at this life fulfilled. Um, anyone can email me at any time.
Um, my email address is shoddy at this life fulfilled. com. I offer a complimentary shadow work session. So as part of my initial. Really, uh, assessment. Um, I to anyone anyone who's interested if they if they're struggling with something something if there's a conflict that that is arisen in their life. Um, I offer a complimentary shadow work session to give them a feel of what to expect.
Um, as well as I have An archive of incredibly powerful visualizations and meditations. So I think I had shared the link with you, Laura, but, um, I have a worry release meditation, uh, particularly right now in this day and age, I think life is also going to continue to get really scary or a little chaotic out there, the life out there.
So it's imperative really for us to have a sense of centeredness, groundedness, rootedness internally. Um, and my meditations help with that. So where you release meditation, if someone emails me, if they reach out to me on Instagram, happy to offer that for free. Um, or really even if you sign up for a shadow work session, I can offer that for free as well.
Great. Oh, and I also do my, I forgot to mention. So I do the energy work separately, standalone. If someone doesn't really be coaching or doesn't want to invest in a coaching program, um, then I. And they, you know, they have certain physical ailments or problems or patterns that they're just stuck in. I also offer the, uh, energy work standalone.
So happy to do a talk session with someone. Um, if you, I think I've shared my link tree, um, link with you. I have a link tree. If they want to, they can schedule an energy assessment. Um, and I muscle test to find out how many sessions are needed to release that problem.
Laura Rotter
And is that link tree on your Instagram account because I'll have the Instagram account in the show notes, as well as your email, as well as the link to the meditation.
It's been so nice getting to know you and having this conversation. Thanks for being my guest.
Shadi Sadeghi
Thank you for hosting me. I love talking with you, Laura. Thank you.
Narrator
Thanks for listening to Making Change With Your Money. Certified financial planner, Laura Rotter specializes in helping people just like you, organized, clarify, and invest their money in order to support a life of purpose and meaning.
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